Wednesday, May 13, 2009

what to do when your husband leaves you

1. be in shock
2. feel horrible, sad, angry, hurt, bewildered, confused, scared, desperate, and sick.
3. enjoy the extra space in the bed, but wonder why when you and he bought sheets together a couple of weeks ago he bothered to pick a color, instead of letting you pick both colors, since in a couple of weeks they'd just be your sheets anyways.
4. do the dishes and sweeping and other chores with insane frequency. this insures that a) you never have a giant insurmountable dish or laundry pile to tackle while you are in complete pain and b) that you always have something to do with yourself and c) that you don't totally sink into a dirty, dog hair, dish-piled, linty, puking, unfunctional (yeah, i just coined that word) depression. at least your depression will be clean and free of literal debris.
5. you will find that even with your chore vigilance, there is much too much time in the day. so...clean your house of all that stuff you've been putting off getting rid of. put his stuff into garbage bags or boxes and stack it some where out of the way. i like to do this part in little bursts and stages by just doing a box from here or there (if like me you have a lot of stuff in boxes that you were going to go through someday--the day is here!). this is a good thing to do for a couple of reasons...if you have suddenly become a single mom of three, including a toddler, you are going to have to go to school funded by lots and lots of grants and loans or you are going to have to get a shit-paying, time-sucking job very soon (or both! ugh). when this happens, you will not have time for several years to deal with all that stuff and you will feel it weighing on you and looming above you and it will be hard to feel excited by your new life because your home will be heavy with all the shit you have to do. so do some of it now, while you have all this time that you can't sit or be still for long without crying and getting yourself all screwed up with no decent result. it feels good, is satisfying, is functional, is practical, and you and your home will feel better for it. and, most importantly, it uses up the time.
6. feel overwhelming hope and gratitude for the situation because if he would do this to you, he is a fucked up dick anyways and once all this horrible sadness and pain clears and heals, you will be a better person. your house will be a happier, more peace-filled place, and that will be good for you and your kids. the goodness part comes in the future and right now you have to operate on a cocktail of logic and faith. it makes sense even though you might feel like begging him to stay.
7. beg him to stay. when it doesn't work, reaffirm that you were right about that gratitude and hope. of course you were, you are always right!
8. hug your kids a lot and let them cry. tell them it's okay to feel anything they feel and you are there for them to talk to, hug, cuddle, be angry with, play games, watch movies....whatever they need. also let them know that they can call grampa, gramma, auntie, and friends to talk. let them know that they can ask you anything and everyone who loves them is there for them if they need anything, even if they want to just talk to someone about you, because it's okay if they are angry with you, or feel you did something to cause the situation. feel proud when your eleven year old says she doesn't blame anybody, but just feels so sad.
9. while you are having these conversations with your kids who have just been abandoned by the man they love and who promised to take care of them forever...you might feel a rage and hatred toward him that makes you want to beat his face to a bloody pulp and then stab it. let the feeling happen, and then let go of it because it just takes energy away from you if you hold onto it. the feeling will probably return the next day when you are having the horrible crying pain with your kids again. repeat process of letting the feeling happen, and then letting it go.
10. you will have moments of rage and resentment because you are being left to do the job of two parents all by yourself. you will think about how unfair and shitty it is of him, because your life is set up the way it is because you both agreed for it to be that way. deal with it. don't cling to the rage and resentment. what he's done is unfair and wrong and also stupid--but so what? don't let his idiocy ruin you.
11. remind yourself to love yourself and to take care of yourself. it's fine to be shitty to your body for a few days--you may be inclined to drink a lot of wine, beer, or whiskey and smoke too much. okay. do that for two or three days, and then get back to normal. get on your bike. take the kids to the park. if you can afford it, get a massage. if you can afford it, get a massage every week or month for the rest of your life. if you can't afford it, save your pennies until you can and in the meantime accept all the hugs people will offer you when they find out your husband left. feel them. don't let go too fast. these hugs are like plugging yourself into something that makes you light up, they restore energy.
12. you will probably be unable to sleep properly. if this happens longer than a couple of days go to the doctor's office and tell him your husband just left you and your three kids and you can't sleep and you need something to help you sleep so that you can function and cope. hopefully he is a nice and kind doctor who will probe you for how you're doing and give you tissues and say it's fine to cry. he will give you a short-term prescription for ambien. take them the way you are supposed to and be on the lookout for side effects. do this even if you normally don't take pills--this is what modern medicine is for. this is an acute trauma.
13. if you haven't done it yet, call a therapist of some kind and set up an appointment. guiding people through trauma is their job, they have tools and they know things you don't. it will be easier for you to do all the *stuff* you have to do to set up your new life if you utilize this resource. you will be less likely to slip into a horrible depression that you don't see. it will help you stay on track.
14. vacillate between emotions and feelings and desires. but don't tell them all to your husband. they will change a hundred times a day.
15. try to remember that he is wounded and broken. that a sane and healthy person would not do this. try to have compassion for him and know that he is doing the best he can with what he has. do not try to take care of him, but try to have compassion quietly in your heart. this is for you. resentment and anger that are not allowed to pass through us, but rather encouraged to stay, will poison you. you didn't ask for this or want it, but it's happening and you will be okay some day--some day will come sooner if you acknowledge the angry feelings and let them go.
16. you will have friends reveal themselves to you. people that you know on a casual but regular basis will quickly learn of what's happened. allow them to commiserate with you. talk to them about it. you didn't do anything wrong and have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. they might offer you help, hugs, childcare, tea, etc. you might feel like not taking them up on it because of this or that reason you make up in your head. don't let yourself do that. thank them for revealing themselves to you in this way, and for offering help. call them and let them help you. you are building friendships that will strengthen your new life. you will be able to reciprocate some day. accept everything you can, even if you have to force yourself. you need the help, there is no getting around that. so accept their offers with grace (and yes, you can have grace while you are blubbering and wearing the same shirt for three days and smell like cigarettes and pain). thank god and the universe for the people in your life who support you, and thank the people.
17. just keep going. you will get through it.
18. if you have kids, make sure to facilitate good times for them if they want them. there is no reason for them to wallow in complete misery. doing this will also help you to not wallow. good times are good times. rent movies and plant seeds and take care of your pets and your house together.
19. figure out what you're going to do to pay your mortgage, electricity, gas, phone, internet, dog food, etc bills. yes, it's overwhelming and if you think too long on it, you might start crying. cry. then go back to figuring it out. if at all possible figure out a way to survive that involves doing something that you love. your life is transforming now, you will be creating something different than what you had. this is an opportunity to create something you will love and enjoy. if you have been a homemaker for your entire adult life, go back to school if at all possible--you will be able to meet new people, learn new skills, and be better prepared to take care of a family and all the attached responsibilities than if you just panic and run out and get a job any job. ideally you will be creating a life where you don't just survive, but also thrive.
20. try to eat something.

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Anonymous said...

Hi Everyone!

Poppy here. I just wanted to post an update. My ex came for a visit over Thanksgiving week. The kids hadn't seen him in a year. They were very excited to see him. I was worried he would take the kids and run across the border. Nothing bad happened. His visit was fine. I let him stay in our house 2 nights. The kids stayed at his hotel with him the other nights. I even invited him to eat Thanksgiving dinner with my family...he said no. But, we didn't fight. It was weird at times, but it feels like we are moving on. For you ladies who have to see your ex every week...I don't know how you do it.

I made a big decision to try to start to build some good will between us, so I bought him some xmas gifts from the kids (a shirt and pajama pants and a nice blanket for the couch) and I framed the kids school photos and made him a photo book with pictures of all of their activities and events from the past year. I wrapped them all up and sent them home with him to open on Christmas. He was really happy and surprised and on the last day of his trip, we were out shopping with the kids and he said that I could pick whatever I wanted and he would buy it for me for Christmas from the kids. (a large gesture from him). I picked a sweater and a bracelet:)

He still blames me for everything. I reminded him that he left us and I just reacted to that. The funny thing is that he hardly remembers that time (almost 2 years ago). He was so depressed and drunk that it is like a blur to him. I kept a journal so that I would never forget. He told me that some day the children would know what I did. what!! ugh. So, we agreed to disagree and move on.

As for his girlfriend with the eyebrow - she got really irritated with him while he was here because he made no effort to contact her. I saw all of their emails:) I was laughing. He hasn't learned his lesson that relationships require communication and effort. I think they are finished since I saw in his email that he has signed up for 2 internet dating sites. oh, poor guy. (eyes rolling) I know I should stop spying on his email box, but it is hard to stop.

I asked him what he was going to give the kids for Christmas. He said he would give me one hunndred dollars for each kid. hello. What will that buy? I talked him into 2 hundred per kid and I will buy the gifts. Again, it would require effort from him to actually do some thinking and some shopping.

As for me, I am dating. I am basically a retarded dater. I don't think I am ready for someone new yet. But, I like meeting new people and going out, so I will keep at it.

My 5 year old just figured out that my ex and I are 'broken up'. She is so sad about it. She told me that she never wants me to kiss another guy...only her father. She told me she doesn't want a new dad. ugh..guilt.

But, life goes on. The holidays are such a hard time. I know they are for everyone.

I hope you are all doing ok.

Have a great holiday...make the best of it!

Poppy

Nancy said...

Good evening, my dear friends--

I hope today finds you in good spirits. Poppy, thanks for the update on the visit. It sounds like it was better than you ever thought it might be. His selective memory when it comes to who caused the divorce is not surprising, is it? It was also very nice of you to think about him on Christmas morning having some presents to open from his children. You can guarantee his thoughts will be of them and you--bet unibrow will be an afterthought then. I'm still glad you have access to his e-mail account. One thing I kick myself for now is telling my husband a year ago to change his password because I had been looking at it--afterall, that's how I found out about the initial online/telephone affair (although I do have to say that I now question whether it really was an online "friend," as he claimed and not the girlfriend he ended up leaving me for).

Our son had a big birthday party two weeks ago, and his father did not show up. I debated prior to the party whether or not I should text him and remind him--and I know he knew because we had a conversation about how we needed only one party because our boy wanted us both there--and I remember telling J the price of the place thinking he'd feel obligated to offer to pay half (which he didn't). Our child was too busy having fun that I honestly don't think he really cared, but I was both happy he didn't show and irritated at the same time. I texted him the next morning and threw out some "bait" saying that if he wanted pictures of the party, I could e-mail them to him--and then asked where they were since I thought they were coming. Now, I normally get no responses to anything I say but this time after an hour or so, I got a text that said, "WE didn't know there was a party. WE didn't think we were invited." Uh--if he didn't know there was a party, why would he think he should get an invitation to a non-existent event? Hello??!! I was actually hurt by his words because I saw it as his attempt to twist his failure as a parent who didn't even show up to his son's birthday party and lay the blame on me. Well, that technique was certainly familiar to me. I ended up fighting the tears all morning long until a co-worker reassured me that he was being an ass and it wasn't my job to be his secretary and remind him of appointments he knew about. She said he was manipulating me again and I was letting him. Well, I dried up the tears and sent him back a text reminding him about our conversation about the party and even telling him to pull up the e-mail where I sent him the date--and then asked why he didn't call to check instead of just assuming he was a victim of a spiteful ex-wife--that our boy had a great time no matter who was there. Guess what? I got absolutely no response to that text. Back to normal, I suppose. J and his girlfriend (that my son likes, much to my fake approval--the woman who helped break up my family is such a nice woman to my son--yes, I know--would be worse if she was mean to him, but still...) anyway, they took him out to dinner the next night to make up for their lack of attendance at his party. Yea, a whole hour of contact! Oh well, my son was happy so I guess that's all that matters.

(to be continued--forgive the length!)

Nancy said...

Here's something else that's a little odd...

Last weekend, our child was with his father and I thought it was odd that he was ready to come home by 1:30 on Sunday afternoon--wanted me to come get him. According to him, nothing happened--he was just tired and wanted to come home. Last night his dad didn't call until almost 9:30 (hardly ever misses a night but always calls by 8:30). I asked our son if he wanted to call Daddy at 9:00 in case he fell asleep and he said no thanks--that if Dad wanted to call he would. Hmmm... then today I reminded him that he was going to spend New Year's Eve with his father and girlfriend and wouldn't that be fun (fake enthusiasm). He replied that he wanted to stay home this year. I questioned why and he said no reason--just wanted to spend it with his pets. Again, hmmm.... He's not been abused, he's not been in a fight with J, but he's not that enthusiastic so something had to have happened or he overheard something??? Any ideas or thoughts about this, ladies? I don't know--truth will come out eventually.

Forgive me for monopolizing and being so self-centered. I want you to know that I think about all of you and hope you are doing well. Colleen and Cathy, I'll send you a quick note in a second to fill in the details (Ann, you need to come to e-mail with us if you ever feel like it--so much easier to "talk" without a limit on word space). Ann, I think you are reacting in a very positive way lately. It does sound like your husband wants to be the upstanding father/husband in other people's eyes, but he doesn't want the commitment in private. I'm sure he thought he was being nice by volunteering to put up the Christmas tree, but I'm proud of you for standing up to the idea that it was best if you and the kids did it yourself. That sort of reminds him that he can't have it both ways. How are things standing with him now? Any changes?

I agree that a trip to Florida about now sounds wonderful! It would be a great way to let the holidays slide right on by, but you are right--the stress to keep up with two such little children by yourself right now would be difficult on you. Keep hanging in there and keep cuddling with those babies. I know the older child is confused but Mommy is the constant in life right now. You are a wonderful mother who has put her children first. I know you worry about them, as I do with my own son--as does Colleen, Poppy, Happy Mom, and Cathy. All of our children are different ages, but one thing we all have in common (among others) is that our children's welfare comes first. There's the difference between us and our former husbands. Our children will grow up remembering that their mothers were at all of the important events in their lives--their mothers were the ones who were there when they woke up feeling sick--their mothers were there when their bikes fell apart and even if they couldn't fix them, at least they tried. They will remember these things and be stronger individuals in the future because their mothers stuck it out and never walked away--we are great role models for our kids.

Hey, on a quick subject change, what are you going to study in college? Just curious! I have spent many MANY years and a few dollars :) on college classes so I'm proud of you for taking on such a big step now--you are going to do great!

Okay, time to send this on and stop jabbering. I hope you all are doing well and having a good holiday season, or as good as you can make it.

Looking forward to hearing from you all when you have a spare minute or two--

Nancy



Hope you all have a good week--let me know how you are all and I'll try to do a little better staying in touch.

Nancy

colleen said...

Hello Ladies

There's not much more I can add to wise Nancy's advice to all ... she always gets it right!

We all met on this site so long ago as broken women and here we all are united in strength and love. We have come so far and faced our biggest fears and survived them all ...

My ex finally moved all his stuff out of my home (2 years later) and left me with one garden spade (he lives in an apartment) - who cares? I've now got shiny new garden tools. He even took my sleigh bed - I kept the mattress - don't think he realized the mattress was worth 3 times the base - haha! My new bedroom looks so much better and I love it! I can now look around my home and there is no presence of him whatsoever - what a wonderful feeling!!

So my wish for us all is a wonderful christmas spent with our children and positive energy for 2012.

sending you all love
Colleen

Ann said...

Hi Everyone,
I haven't been on for a while..the holidays were really tough but I got through them. I enjoyed reading your updates and helped me remember that you are still there no matter what. Now what? Jan, Feb, March = next court date. I am looking forward to starting classes so that I have something else to focus on and new people to interact with. I'll talk about this first.. I am taking preqs to hopefully get into a 2 year nursing program one day. It's something I always wanted to do but never had the confidence in my early twenties. I have a BA in Psychology that got me absolutely nowhere. So now I'm determined to do what I want and make my life right this time.. no waiting for someone else (my husband for instance) I'm terrified...but I want to try. I never worked in the medical field before so to get my foot in the door I am also signing up for a certificate program in Phlebotomy. I know they don't make great money at first but its a stepping stone. I want to keep doing good things for me, my kids, and other people. I don't want to be bitter and mean and feel defeated. I don't want to drown in all this sorrow. I believe that my kids are supposed to have the life I imagined for them. A nice house with lots of kids in the neighborhood and having a really happy life.
As for J..(thats my husband) he's over a lot. He spends as much time with the kids on the weekends as he can. We've been getting along because the kids are always around. Plus they are so young still and so hurt. I feel I have to keep showing my 3 yr old that he's still loved.
I just think of things in the present time.. it's all i can handle really..
I'm sorry I'm not very thorough right now. Please keep posting your updates. I'm still listening to everyone's lives, taking notes, and holding on to the encouragement. I'm always thinking of you and wishing you well.
Talk to you soon,
Ann

Nancy said...

Hello ladies--

Ann, thanks for writing and let us know how you are doing. I've been thinking of you over the holidays and wondering how you were coping. It's bittersweet, isn't it? Christmas is all about the children and you really want to give them memories that they will look back on fondly down the road. I don't know if it's better that your children are so young or if it would be better if they were older--either way, I know you had to have done a remarkable job of trying to keep the holidays special for them.

Congratulations on signing up for your classes. It sounds like you are really taking charge of your life and making plans to do things that you always wanted to do. Way to go, Ann! In the midst of all of this upheaval and emotional mess, you are looking forward and focusing on what makes you and your children happy.

Like yours, my holidays were not the best, but that's for another time. I did get some good advice in an e-mail today from the woman that leads the DivorceCare group I attended twice last year. I had told her that I didn't feel ready to forgive J (my former spouse--interesting how we share the same initials, isn't it?). She told me that I never have to let him know I forgive him--that the forgiveness is not for him (or her, the girlfriend) but it's all about me. She said that it is obvious that J still has a huge amount of control over my emotions judging by how upset I got on Christmas day and that forgiving him--not condoning his actions--was a way to take that control back. It didn't mean that I wouldn't get upset with him now and then--it meant that I would be able to recognize those feelings much quicker and get rid of them without letting them sit inside of me and overpower the positives I have made in my life. I know it is standard "forgiveness" advice, but one of these days--hopefully soon--I can get to that point. He will never know that I've done anything like that --and quite frankly he won't care--this will be for ME, not him and certainly not her. I'm tired of being at the whim of his actions, insensitive remarks, and total lack of concern. I don't even respect him anymore--why would I want to let somebody that I don't respect have control over me?

Easier said than done! Anyway, one step at a time, Ann--looks like you are most definitely on the right path with those steps!

Take care, my friends!
Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Nancy,
That was really true what you said about my holidays. I want to give the kids these great memories.. as for me well.. I hope I can have fond memories too of the holidays again.. I know right now I don't want to remember these times or feelings. Thanks for the encouragement about the classes.. I am so scared.. but I will persevere.
I could see how you don't respect your "J" anymore.. I could see that happening to me on some days.. I'm sure it will grow. I'm sorry xmas wasn't that great for you.. what kinds of things does he say ? Is it how he acts in front of you? I keep thinking how did you get this far with the whole girlfriend thing.. See right now.. I still don't know but the thought makes me crazy.. I don't think I will let my kids around "Her" if there is a "her" that suddenly comes around. I will feel so decieved at that point because of how many times I asked J to tell me what was going on.. Just this past weekend I found out he had a facebook account.. Now he is NOT the type to EVER be interested in something like that.. and all the sudden when I saw that it's like he was putting himself out there. Like he's ready for a separate new life. Also, the SHE was on his friends list. I was so angry and at that exact moment he walked in the house to visit. I screamed about the facebook and said all these things from my heart that I ask "why" every day why my husband left but other husbands "get it" and know that kids are a privilege to have.. but mine just threw it away. How I have to live in a house full of memories every day while he's out doing God knows what! That he is evil for what he did to us and he's a liar.. I told him that I will never let my kids around a dirty "B" if that's what this is all about. He kept saying its not true.. that he has facebook because he wanted to contact old military friends and that he's not with the "B" and never was... I lost it that morning but I don't feel bad about anything I said. He needed to hear how hard it is for me to be left with 2 children on my own. That he promised this life and walked away from it. He just kept telling me to calm down and at one point he said "I think I'm gonna leave" and I said "Yeah! Because that's your thing now! Go, Leave! It's too much for you, is it?!"
Later on that day... I told him calmly that being how sensitive this situation is.. that he could have let me know he was on facebook in case I came across it..(keep in mind he is no way the type to ever be interested in this)and that when I saw that it indicated a separate life from me and the kids. So things cooled down and back to somewhat normal now that we talked it out.. but I feel like I really don't know what he's doing when he's not at our house with the kids.
I have to keep my guard up as much as possible because he could be sympahizing with me so that I don't get revenge thru the divorce. I don't know.. but I don't know how you are doing it .. knowing about the other woman..I guess time forces you to adapt but I see now how upset I got over the facebook thing that I am still not ready to fully hear about an "affair" if there is one.
The one good thing I noticed about myself was that that day was really bad for me.. but the next day I got up, thought about it, but it didn't ruin my entire day. I remember how in the past every single day was ruined with racing thoughts morning to night.
So I guess that's good right? All the more reason why I can't wait to start these classes to have something new to focus on.
Also, Nancy did you ever figure out why your son was upset when you asked him about not spending New Year's with his father?
Talk to you soon,
Colleen, Poppy, Cathy hope things are going well for you too.. hope to hear from you soon
Love
Ann

colleen said...

Hey Girls
Sorry for being so quiet, between work and Christmas I have been really busy.

Glad to hear we've all survived another Christmas, I had a quiet one, just us three and my parents.

My ex turned up on Christmas morning to see the boys with big plasma screen TV's for each of the boys, now he's taken them off to the tropical island of Mauritius for a holiday. Money doesn't buy respect or love! The boys have refused to meet his girlfriend and I have heard through the grapevine that he is also cheating on her - ha ha - I feel rocks!! Let her feel a fraction of the pain I went through ...

My parents gave me a crockery set and the toss sits there and says - well I will take the other one - I just glared at him in disbelief and said No! I have replaced everything he took by searching the internet, paying next to nothing, then restoring them to their former glory.

One thing I have realized of late is that I have accepted the divorce but will never understand why he did this to us. So I realize I will never have closure.

I have moved on and have been with my boyfriend for almost a year now and things are just perfect.

Ann, don't ever feel bad about venting your feelings to him. Gosh, if you could have been a fly on my wall when I have let go - I remember telling him he had a gangrenous ???? and he would never bring it near me again - filthy pig!!!

I thought I would be heartbroken when my sons left for their tropical holiday, but I have had the time of my life. For the first time in almost 20 years I have not had to be a mom. No mess, no stress, no laundry, no meals. I have been out for dinner every night and restoring some furniture I recently bought.

So, love to you all. I'll be thinking of you while I'm floating around my pool.

I'll be in charge of cocktails at our resort ...

take care
love
Colleen

Nancy said...

Hello again, friends!

How are all of you this new year? I hope life is treating you as kindly as it can--you all deserve it!

Life is okay here--not wonderful, not terrible, just sort of routine (which, given the circumstances of the last year and a half, is fine with me at the moment). Ann, you asked about the girlfriend--well, there are times when I see her with my J during drop offs/pick ups and we get to chit chatting about nothing in particular that I think she is a very nice person. It's like I forget for a moment that she was an integral part of my husband's suprise (at least to me) desire to leave our family.
She runs hot and cold with me too, but I feel at times like she is trying to either be kind or maybe alleve some guilt--I don't know which. For example, on New Year's Eve, she hosted a kids' party for her nieces/nephews and our son. She texted me a picture of C playing a game. Now, I don't know if that was to be kind to me or if it was her way of unconsciously letting me know he was happy at their house. Who knows? I did appreciate the gesture, though. She did quit her job a couple of weeks ago when something happened at work that shook her up, and J called me and said that he wanted to talk to me about something but didn't want S to know he had called me. He repeated that a couple of times so I'm wondering what in the world could have happened--did they get engaged? What? Well, all it turned out to be was that--she quit her job. Huh? Okay. He said he didn't want me to hear it from somebody else and think he hadn't told me himself. I asked if she was okay (she was a bus driver and had a wreck--nobody hurt at all) and what she was going to do now. He said they had been throwing some ideas around but weren't sure just yet. Then he said he felt better now. Apparently she had been quite depressed that week since the accident, so I suppose life was not very fun at the house. Eek! Real life problems came into their house--too bad. (notice the lack of an exclamation point there)

I try to be the type of person who doesn't think badly of other people and I'm usually successful. I do have my moments, though, as Cathy and Colleen can verify where I absolutely think I hate J and S and everything they put me through. I just try to take it one day at a time and TRY to remind myself that on the bad days, I just need to wait it out and tell myself that in the next day or two I'll be feeling better. I'm not always successful there, but I do try.

J at times seems to be more of his old self with me--when S is not around. When they are together, there is a lot of hand holding and talking about his family and what's new there. I take great pleasure in joining in the conversation quite "innocently" and talking about things that WE did as a family with his parents, siblings, and the rest of his dysfunctional family. I admit I do it to get in a dig at S--just to remind her he did have a life with me before she came around and there is a part of him she will never have.

Hey, I try to be kind, but I do enjoy being mean at times too--in a nice kind of way.

Take care, everyone, and check in now and then so we can catch up with life! Thinking of you all!!

With love,
Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Everyone,
Lost this page.. just trying to see if i can see your posts.
Ann

Ann said...

Okay,
Everything is fine now. I lost everything in my "favorites" so I had to get this blog back but it wouldn't let me see all the old posts for some reason.
Anyway...Nancy it really must be tough to deal with S and J all the time. Especially because your son is still young enough where you have to try and keep the peace. Where as with Colleen, her sons are old enough to really have thier own opinions about thier father. Sometimes I wonder what would be easier? Sometimes I wish my kids were older so they can tell thier father what they really think of what he did to us. For now, I have to be thier voice and it doesn't seem to mean much now to J. One day, I'm sure the kids will resent him. But it won't be for a long time.
I didn't feel bad for her either when I read your post about her accident. So what? No one got hurt right? that's the important part. But if her feelings and his feelings were hurt then, so what?! My J is alway complaining! Always sooo tired.. he can't sleep, blah blah blah.. Meanwhile, I'm taking care of two toddlers all day all night whether I'm physically sick or mentally sick because of what he's putting us through.
I wish I had an answer. I wish I knew what the evil motivation is behind all this.
My son just turned 4 and he is now starting to verbalize "I don't like what Daddy is doing. He's supposed to sleep here every night. I'm sick of him leaving." A 4 year old shouldn't have to have these feelings of loss and insecurity. He is a different little boy altogether and I hate J for changing him. He ruined our son's dreams. Now I have to loose sleep and talk to specialists to make sure I can get the little boy back that I once had.
My mom told me the other day, that sometimes she stays up all night trying to wonder why a "this man who seemed to love her daughter so much, then had two babies, and just up and left her with no job and two little ones to take care of all by herself." Everyone is hurting because of what he did. No one gets it. His family, my family. Everyone is depressed. Except HIM. Why is that?
I really needed to vent today. I'm just so sick and tired of all this chaos. I'm sorry if I'm not even making sense.
Colleen, I can't believe what you said that you think that possibly hes cheating on her now. GOOD! I can't wait until she finds out! I wish you could be there when she gets that news! Actually, your probably a pro at investigating now, maybe you should deliver HER a picture! hahaha wouldn't that be wonderful?

Talk to all of you soon,
I can't wait to hear what J had to bitch and moan about today!

Oh Also, you know some of you said that your husbands acted like they were sad and alone too? Well, once the divorce was over..did they change instantly at that point? Like all the sudden you realized that it was all just fake becuase they were legally trying to get out of certain things?
Just wondering... I have a hard time some days wondering if J is sincere or just trying to stay out of financial trouble in terms of our house or our the alimony I'm asking for.




Love,
Ann

Ann said...

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Nancy said...

I'm happy to hear from you again, Ann. I had been thinking about you and hoping all was well.

You are so right when you talk about your husband's woe is me attitude--he really doesn't think about the fact that while he is only taking care of himself, he has left you to deal with the emotional, physical, and mental care of your babies...and, like the mother you are, you are thinking of your own needs last. Meanwhile, you are having to listen to him talk about how sad he is, how upset, how whatever he is. That is selfishness at its finest! Hate to be flippant, but I think we can all use the "been there, done that" phrase.

My J used to be all mopey now and then, talking about how little money he had and how expensive everything was and I (more often than not) fell for it all. I was so used to wanting him to be happy, to being the person who took care of everybody else, that even in the midst of him turning my world upside down, there was still a little part of me who felt I needed to make things easier on him. Dumb, I know, but maybe down deep I thought if I was kind to him and helped him that he would appreciate it and become that man I used to know and love. That didn't exactly happen.

I guess I finally woke up when I went out to their little love nest one day to pick up my son and there in the backyard was an above ground pool--and not a little one--a huge one that had to have cost close to $10,000. No kidding. Just two weeks before, he had been talking about how his water heater had quit and they were so expensive but he guessed he'd just have to do without hot water until he could afford a new one. I actually lied and told him that the money that was left in our joint account was still partly his and he could go take $600 out of it since it was rightfully his too. Truth is, he had taken all of his half of our money out months before and anything left in there was from my paycheck. I just felt the need to help him because he was so miserable. THEN, I saw the pool and felt like a complete fool.

You asked about how our husbands were after the divorce and I can't speak for everyone else, but the final divorce decree hit me like a punch in the stomach. I cried like I hadn't cried in a long time, then I called J and told him it was final and he asked if I was okay. Stupid question--I said no--and he said he's sorry but he has to go--and poof! He started his REAL life at that moment, not that he hadn't been sleeping with the girlfriend before that moment anyway. Within a week or two after that, his girlfriend became public knowledge and the distance between us grew to proportions I would never have dreamed possible. He didn't answer any messages or phone calls and would say he didn't get them when I would finally corner him. Then our child would text him within an hour after I did on my cell phone and used the word "Dad" (at my suggestion) and wow, it's amazing how that message went through. I became angry and still am at times at the total disregard for my feelings. He didn't become the friend he said we could be--he became the stranger I feared he would. Today, he feels like nothing more than someone I used to know--like some old high school friend that you sort of remember but have nothing in common with anymore.

You hang in there and try to resist doing what I did--getting sucked into that nurturing personality with him again. He made his decisions and now he can suffer the consequences. Don't worry about feeling selfish if you need to get alimony and more child support than he wants to give. You are planning for YOUR future now--yours and the children--he needs a wake up call and he can't have it both ways. He can't want his freedom and then have you feeling sorry for him at the same time.

Hang in there, dear friend! Vent all you like--we are here to listen and share whenever you like! You're doing much better than I was at this stage--keep going!

Nancy

Nancy said...

I just wanted to add one more thing that I forgot, Ann. I know you are worried about the effect this will have on your children. I want to reassure you that they will be just fine. They are so young that they eventually won't remember what it was like when Daddy was sleeping at home. It's confusing for the 4 year old right now, but he will do okay because he has a mother who will make sure he is okay. One thing that I would suggest--that is VERY hard to do--is to try your best not to say too many negative things about J when the children are around. They are young, but they are also still Daddy's biggest fans at times.

I was not really successful at hiding my frustration and sadness and had to really bite my tongue not to be sarcastic in front of my son when it came to any discussion about his father. My son was 9 years old when his father walked out and he saw me sobbing in front of my husband and practically begging him to stay. That had to have formed an image in his mind that he won't forget easily. I wish he hadn't seen that, but I also know that it was an honest part of the trauma we were both dealing with and maybe it showed him that if Mom cries when she's sad, it's okay if I do too. One thing I will tell you is that I became closer to my child as a result of his father's actions than I would have been if we had stayed together.

Your babies WILL be okay and I'm guessing that your selfish ass of a husband did not ruin your son's dreams--he ruined your dreams--or let's put it this way--he opened up opportunities for you that are out there waiting for you when you are ready for them. You will be amazed to read back over your letters this time next year and realize how much you have grown as a woman and a mother during this time. Your son's dreams consist of Mommy being there to comfort him when he's sad or hurt, to play with him, to keep his little world safe. He will be totally fine. Children are very resilient and, sad as it is to say, he will be among the majority of his classmates one day who don't live with both parents. It's so disappointing to think that your children are now part of the statistics for kids who come from broken families--that was the hardest for me to accept of almost anything, like I had failed my son and set him up for emotional problems--but truth is, he is more compassionate, more open, more understanding today than he was 1-1/2 years ago. I wouldn't go as far as saying this was good for him, but I really want to reassure you that while you are growing and adjusting, so are your children. All they need right now is the stability of their mother--the safety they find with you--you are their safe place, Ann. You're not going anywhere and they know that, even as young as they are. They will be okay and you will find that you will be closer to both of them in the future than you had ever thought. This is one of those opportunities I was talking about earlier--the chance to develop an even stronger, closer relationship with your babies. You are a remarkable mother!

colleen said...

Hey Girls
I, for some reason had the most dreadful nightmares last night, so it's now 4.30am and I am actually feeling sick from the dreams!

Ann, you're doing really well and yes, on one hand it is easier having older kids going through this, but on the other hand - no, as they understand everything and the father they have respected their entire life (now almost 20- yrs and 16 yrs) has betrayed them. Their pain is still a living breathing thing ....

To put it bluntly, the boys resent him popping in here for whatever reason and my eldest is blaming me for making him feel welcome. Now, I don't exactly make him feel welcome but I am at least civil, which I explained to the boys that I do so for them and them only. They are concerned he will try and worm his way back into our family which they do not want. Then, last night my eldest has a go at me that I should have pushed harder in the divorce and got half his business. Well, I explained that I fought as hard as I could for our home and that I was bullied and threatened. If I had pursued the issue any further - he would have sold our home and we would have been forced to move - aaaahhhh! try explain that to a 20 yr old that everything you did was for them and them only!!!

I may have another legal battle on my hands as he has defaulted on our court order and the home is still not in my name, nor have I had any settlement. He tells me he is drawing 15 thousand a month out our bond as he feels he is entitled to do so, but assures me it will be in my name bond free shortly - I will get legal advise this week.

Yes, he is still feeling sorry for himself and "trying" to be happy and sooo "poor" which is laughable as they just got back from a tropical island vacation!

Yes, the kids suffer hugely! Everything I tried so hard to warn him about has happened with the boys. They have lost ALL respect for him. The boys lost part of themselves in this ugly process. Although the three of us are happy, my sons see me working so hard and trying to do "man" work around the house. I am exhausted most of the time. I am mom, maid, graphic designer, handy man and gardener. I am proud of all my achievements and decided this week that if a woman can ice a cake - she can grout, plaster and paint ...

How did I feel the day my divorce came through - devastated! I cried my heart out and the waste of a 23yr marriage. He seemed happy in a way although he professed to be sad. He stated that he would always be there for me, but when I asked for help to replace the garage door motor, he said it was my house and I lived there so it was not his problem - you see the selfishness?? So now, I ask for nothing.

Regarding the boys feeling that their dad wants me back - I've assured them that will never happen, which has settled them. I know he will never find another woman who works as hard as I do and asks for nothing for herself. Everytime he comes here, he must notice how I am improving the home but says nothing. On occasions if he is fetching or dropping off my youngest - he bumps into my boyfriend as we are on our way out and I see the envy in his eyes. Oh yes, my boyfriend is gorgeous, amazing body, black belt in karate, 15 yrs younger than me and adores me ... eat your heart out asshole ... you thought I would be alone ....

So girls, that's me for now. I need to get out and have some fun today. My entire body is aching from working so hard. And, I need to get those awful dreams of failing financially out of my head today ...

love you all
Coll
xxx

Anonymous said...

Hi everyone,

This blog seems to have a great support group and I sure could use the support. My husband of 8 years just left me alone in a foreign country on our annual vacation. My flight home is far away and I am alone with minimal language skills.

I'm not sure if any of you have had this experience, but my (ex??) man threatens to leave all the time we have an argument, no matter who is "right" or "wrong". It's not the first time he's packed his bags and I'm afraid if he comes back, it won't be his last. This creates so much lack of stability, dependability, and trust, you all would know.

Fortunately, we have no kids in the picture right now. But a child is something that I long to have and I am worried that if he comes back, it might only get worse later in life, if (when?) he abandons me with kids.

On the other hand, I feel so alone and just wish I had someone/something to take me home. I am in a different continent, his continent. I almost wish we could just continue the vacation because I'm scared to figure everything out by myself.

But when and where do I draw the line????

Please advise.
S.

colleen said...

Hello and Welcome S
Your situation scares the hell out of me to be honest. If you are in his continent, then I would imagine he is still around and has not flown back home.

Look at your situation from an outsiders point of view and the advice you would give another, I'm sure you would tell yourself to get the hell out of the marriage before kids arrive.

Why would you allow yourself to be treated this way? The foundation of a marriage is trust, respect and stability of which you have none.

Of course you are scared but you have more strength than you realize. By allowing yourself to be treated this way, you are setting a path for the rest of your life. Yes, imagine if you had children and he did this? then you would have to deal with a far worse situation as you are responsible for another person. Not easy!

My advice to you would be to go back home, stand up to him and say you will not be treated this way any longer. You deserve respect.

As you will see from this site, we have all walked a very rough road and none of it was our doing. From being scared and abandoned we have all risen to the women we are today.

take care
Colleen

Anonymous said...

Hello Everyone!

Ann - I know you are worried about the kids. They will be fine. Mine were 3 and 6 when my husband left. It was hard for them. My 3 year old (who just turned 6), figured out when she was 5 that her dad was not coming back. It was really sad. I just told my kids that I also miss their dad, but he doesn't want to live with us and there is nothing I can do about it. It's ok to miss him. I let them call him if they want or make him cards. My kids went a year without seeing their dad. Once, my daughter got mad at me and said she wanted to go and live with her dad. OMG. Talk about a knife in the heart.

Nancy - I don't know how you stay calm having to see the girlfriend all the time. Good for you.

As for me...things are moving forward. I am dating and it's fun. I wanted to get extensions put in my hair (I have shorter blonde hair), but my hair is too short for extensions to look good. So, I got a wig. OMG. It is long, super blonde and bone straight with bangs, parted on the side. I swear, I look like a super model:) I have a 22 year old that wants to go on a date with me. (I am 39). I wear the wig all the time:) It is so nice to get some positive attention and feel really great about myself.

If you are feeling in a funk, you should change your hair!

My kids have to go to Europe this summer for 4 weeks with their father. Guess what...he thinks the plane tickets are too expensive! This was his idea. He has to pay for them. I have to deliver them over there, he has to bring them back to me. Hello...he thinks plane tickets are expensive, wait till he has to feed them 3 meals a day and buy them new clothes. I am actually looking forward to them going. I need a break. I am exhausted and need a bit of freedom. The kids are excited to go as well, which I am happy about.

One day at a time!

Poppy

Theresa said...

My husband and I have 5 boys together and we had been together for 19 years...1/2 my life. I had a major heart attack in May when my youngest son was just two weeks old. My oldest son (18) got into some trouble so instead of spending his last year in high school he is in a boot camp type facility. I was heart broken for him. When I had my heart attack my cardiologist told me that 30 more minutes and I would have been dead. I had a stent placed in my heart to keep the artery open. I am a second sememster nursing student and I already have a bachelor's degree in psychology but anyway....the week after thanksgiving 2011 my husband left us for another woman. I was everything you described Megan. Then he quit his job..he was making $60 dollars an hour and now we have no money. I am trying to make my school student loan stretch thats without paying the mortgage of course. I have a 3 teenagers, a four year old and a 9 month old. I am so broken at times and then there are times I have no time to be broken because school keeps me so busy. I have classes,12 hour clinical days, kids and housework to keep me busy forever..lol... I think what hurts the most is him leaving me 7 months after I almost died. He does not stay in contact with his kids and I feel so horrible for them. I am struggling, stressing and overwhelmed but I do like the extra room in the bed with no snoring to listen to...:) He gave me a new wedding ring a week before he left...*astard!!!!

Ann said...

Hi Everyone,

Haven't been on in a while. Just to much going on with the lawyers and paperwork..
Theresa.. you already sound like a strong person to have 5 kids and going to school at the same time. I can't even believe your husband would be so selfish with so many children to care for! And the little sounds like he just came along. Just awful! I'm very sorry what your husband is doing to you and the kids. I wish you the best. Please keep in touch.

Poppy
I think the kids will be okay someday. But you are right, it's just so tough watching it day by day. I know they possibly won't even remember all these hurt feelings because they are so young.I hope to sound like you someday. You sound so Free !

Colleen,
I hope you didn't take offense at all to what I said about the kids being younger vs. older. I know your kids went thru HELL because they are older. I guess I just meant the feeling of "loneliness" maybe was harder? I don't even know if that sounds right. Anyway, we have our 4 way meeting tomorrow. Well see what J is going to agree on.
Oh.. I had another blow-out with him. I again accused him of the same girl. I said I wanted him to tell her to give me a call so we can settle this. He denied it, said it wasn't true..I said one day I'm going to show up on her doorstep with the kids. I told him no matter what at some point I will cross paths with her. He said I need to forget about "her" because it's not true and he said "time will tell" that he wasn't lying.
Does it matter? No.. he still left me. He still chose to say to my face "I don't love you anymore" none of that changes no matter what is going on.
School is keeping me really busy and I like it.. but I think this summer when the semester ends I really need to get into a Divorce Care Group. I still see my therapist about every 2 weeks, but it would be nice to talk to people too that are actually in this like me at this moment.
I know most of you talk about dating.. I just still don't see that at all in my future. I just can't even picture going out with another man. How does that even happen? When did you know you were ready? Were you ever afraid that you might like someone just because you were lonely and then realized you really didn't like him? I'm so afraid of all these things.
Think J is going to try and screw me over tomorrow. I'm asking for alimony (not even that much) and for him to help pay for daycare now that I have to go back to work and I think he is going to disagree with all that. He already thinks the child support amount per week is too much.
I will update you all.
Hope this year is bringing good things so far to everyone.
Love,
Ann

PISSED OFF said...

My husband of 15 years left my daughters and me, we have relocated from MI to FL in Sept, and he decided on Wed that he wanted to leave us and be with a women he has been with for the last 3 years, I am pissed off, because he told me he was done with her, we went to therapy for 9 months, and he just up and leave us in a state where we have no one, he has been gone for almost a week and have not called to check on me or our daughters...the pain and sadness I feel at times is over whelming, I pray a lot, I hug my girls a lot, they are confused and angry I have a 16 year old and a 12 year old, and they knew we had problems but they did not think he would leave. The fact that he has not called me is what hurt the most, I am heart broken, angry and I feel rejected and alone! Any advice about how to move on what to tell my daughters.... Signed PISSED OFF

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colleen said...

Hey there PO
You have every right to be angry, right now your priority is your girls. My sons were the same age as your girls when he left us, they were numb with grief and couldn't verbalize their feelings. They cried, withdrew and all I could do was tell them I loved them unconditionally, that I did not know why their dad had done what he did, but I would always be there for them.

I did tell them that life is not always fair, if you are given a lemon, make lemonade and the 3 of you will stand together united and get through this. Both my boys slept in my bed with me for the next year and drew comfort off me.

Stay strong - you can do this.

take care
Colleen

colleen said...

Hi Ann
Of course I would never take offense - don't even worry about that.

I'm worried that you are going to give in to J regarding the divorce settlement. Remember whatever you agree to, you will be stuck with forever!!

You must increase your maintenance for the little ones each year - say 10%. Otherwise you will be screwed.

You must fight for rehabilitative maintenance for yourself. This means payment to yourself for a number of years in order for you to re-educate yourself and gain better employment.

And also all future earnings of his will be 50% of yours. (I wish I had known about that one!!) This means any bonus, profit share, retirement fund - you name it...

Also, he pays education, clothing, medical, sports, sports equipment, etc.

Good luck - be hard, you are going to need all the help financially, so put it in writing now.

take care
love
Colleen

Anonymous said...

Hello, I was feeling fine all week until it hit me hard today. I have not been able to function normally and having to take care of my kids is hard. I had butterflies when I met my husband and I am having them again waiting for a phone call or knock on the door.I don't think it is fair that he has a key and thinks he can enter when he wants and we can not go to where he is at.

Nancy said...

Good evening, ladies--

I hope this finds you all doing well. Welcome to PO, Anonymous, and all others that need a place to vent and a shoulder to lean on now and then. You know what? All of this stinks! I hate it that the same story comes along so often, not because I tire of hearing about it but because I hate that it continues to happen to such lovely women who didn't deserve it. Anon, you said something about him still having the keys and thinking he can enter when he wants while you can't do the same at his place. Interestingly enough, when my former husband gave me back his key to our house, along with his keys to my car, it sort of broke my heart a little more. It was like he was telling me right at that point that there was no hope left--he was officially closing the door on me--and down deep I didn't want that to happen. That was over a year ago--now, I would have all the locks changed and he would never be allowed to be here when I wasn't going to be around--not because I don't trust him (heck, I don't even KNOW him anymore much less trust him) but because this is now MY home and I am protective of the place my son and I live.

Ann, how did your meeting go? I have to agree with Colleen that you need to think hard about what you might need in the future because once you sign, you're stuck with it. I settled for about 75% of what the court said he should be paying me for child support because I felt sorry for him at the time--no money, all alone, etc. Time and distance have changed my perception and I realize his sob story was more manipulation no his part for me to feel sorry for him. We are doing fine, money-wise, but that money is for my child not for him to be keeping to spend on his girlfriend. He has enough money to put a pool in his backyard, he should have had enough to afford the full child support amount. Try to take as much emotion out of it as you can (so hard to do) and think as a businesswoman who has a longterm business to run (raising your children the way you always wanted them to be raised). Don't feel sorry for him--emotions will level out in the future and you'll be off that roller coaster--but I doubt very much that he is going to offer more money than he is ordered to pay. Make the best "deal" you can now and have no financial regrets in the future. Sounds cold, but get this out of the way now so you don't have revisit it down the road.

My thoughts are with all of you this evening, and I hope you are all well.

Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Anonymous,
I went thru the same thing when my husband first left. He was coming and going whenever he wanted and we were not "allowed" to go where he is staying at his friends house (a work friend, so I don't know this guy very much). I got so sick of it, that one day he was over, I told him off and said "You can only come over on Tues, Thurs, and Sundays!" He got very mad at that! It was the first time I saw any emotion out of him since he had moved out. After arguing for a little while, I agreed he could also come over on Sat..ONLY because I felt bad for my kids who were only 3 and 1.5 at the time and missed their father very much! Shortly after, we had a court date that my lawyer requested. It was to make sure he still paid all bills while the divorce was in process and to put his visitation schedule in place. It was very hard for me to tell him NOT to come over whenever he wanted! But like you, I was on edge, butterflies, panic.. every time the phone rang or someone pulled in the driveway. Then when he was over and decided to leave, I would cry my eyes out because I never knew when he was going to go and it was too much every single time. The schedule MADE him come over on those days and time and it allowed me to adjust to him not being around. At first, I found myself waiting for T/TH and weekends for him to be over.. then I found myself dreading those days.. then it just became routine. I still have a lot of adjusting ahead of me but a different kind. I hope this helps you and hope it encourages you to get a "visitation" schedule in place.
I think you are going through enough psychological abuse!
Take Care,
Ann

Ann said...

Hi Colleen and Nancy,
Thanks so much for the advice. I really needed to hear it this week after that meeting. It went horribly wrong! His lawyer acted like a teenager who was getting grounded! My lawyer was calm the whole time and trying to tackle the issues. His lawyer was pissed about every offer saying the appraisal on the house was too high, the alimony was ridiculous for me to ask, and apparently J was hoping to move back in the house by MAY! His lawyer threw a fit when my lawyer said that I needed at least until September to get a job, relocate to CT and find a place to live, and enroll the kids in full-time daycare. His lawyer "threw" the meeting and stormed out. It was only 20 min long! I was furious. The next night I had a fight with J ..saying that this whole time he was being nice and telling me he was going to help me and the kids as much as possible and then come to find out he not only wants us out of the house in less than 2 months but that he's pissed about anything that has to do with $$$. I'm not even asking for a lot of alimony! Like you said Nancy, I was feeling bad and asking for such a small amount just to help me not struggle..and I asked for J to pay for 1/2 of daycare costs until kids are in elementary school. He was livid! He was going "How do you expect me to live? Your taking everything! And you want me to support you!" And I tried to explain..thats not it at all, I'm asking for support until I get my feet on the ground because I won't start off making a lot of money right away and that I feel if I have to pay for daycare why shouldn't he too? After all, I've saved us Thousands over the years that I've been a stay-at-home mother.. It is very hard to stick to my guns about $$$ when he's standing there making me feel like I'm some greedy witch trying to take his life away..That night I was very shaky and upset. I felt maybe I was asking for too much... But I worked out the numbers for rent, daycare, food ,car etc.. and I was coming up really short with just child support money. All he has to do is move back in the house and continue paying our very low mortgage bill and whatever else.. and he still finds reasons to feel sorry for himself.
As we were arguing his phone rang and it was after 930..I told him to pick it up because it was his girlfriend. He said I should knock it off with that subject..I said if it's who I think it is, then ask her for money since she's living in Daddy's mansion for now.
We haven't talked since. He's supposed to come over tomorrow.
I feel like I don't know him..I feel like how did this person turn like this? Treat the mother of his children like garbage?
I'm beside myself at this point. You're right I have to take the emotions out of it. I'm afraid he's going to try other things. Bargaining, and trying to make me feel sorry. Deep down, I feel like he wants the house real bad so that he can fix it and then sell it. Take the money and do whatever he has planned for himself or with someone else.
Our pre-trial date is Wednesday. I don't want to take this to Trial at all because it will drain our savings account. I just want the judge to make a good decision.

Thanks for listening so much! I will update soon.
Ann

colleen said...

Hi Ann

What J is trying to do to you is absurd. He is liable to pay 100% for all schooling until they enter the workplace.

Look at what happened to me - when we went to court the first time, he claimed he had sold his BMW X5 and downgraded to a second hand Audi (still a luxury model), he also said he had moved out of his apartment to a cheaper one - again not entirely true as he stays in a fully furnished luxury hi-end apartment block.

Within one month of our divorce being finalized, he bought another BMW X5 and is now looking at purchasing a 6 bedroom, 5 bathroom house - 2 houses away from where his lover stays. Plus he took our sons on a tropical island vacation in January - go figure!!!!

My eldest son had a go at him 3 weeks ago, that he feels it is disgusting that I, as their mother, am being treated so poorly. Yes, just like garbage ...

So Ann, fight for your rights - this is your only chance. The fact that you have been a stay-at-home mom will work in your favour. Your lawyer MUST ask for rehabilitative maintenance for yourself which is entirely seperate from the kids.

You are not being greedy, just level headed. He was the one who walked out and if he cannot afford it, well - get a second job. He should have thought about what he was doing in the first place.

take care
hugs
Colleen

Nancy said...

Dear Ann,

I'm sorry that the meeting didn't go better. It's weird how impatient and immature J's lawyer seems in comparison to your own. Where did he find this guy? The whole divorce process is crazy, but you know what? I was greatly satisfied during my divorce when his lawyer, the one he found in the yellow pages--the one he kept badgering to hurry up with the paperwork--was the same one who kept messing things up and stretching out the process. I didn't say anything at all, as my lawyer was as professional as they come and very thorough and made no mistakes at all. My husband would complain about how long it was taking (a whole 2 months) and I'd just look at him with no expression on my face at all. He would look back and say, "I know! It's my guy messing everything up." I would just reply with stupid things like, "Hey, maybe it's a sign...ever think about that?" or "I'm not the one who hired him." That would make him mad, but the madder he got at that time, the more satisfied I was. He was pushing so hard and his guy was the one frustrating him, not me. Ha! Take that! Yeah, it still pleases me that he got such a dud--guess impatience can backfire on you at times.

I totally agree with Colleen about the importance of protecting yourself financially and not feeling greedy or guilty or whatever else you may be feeling that benefits him. It's not revenge you're taking if you go to court--it's not greed--it's you being assertive and knowing that you are protecting yourself and your children. You're right when you said he had saved thousands over the years by you staying home with the children. I looked up on salary.com how much that time would have been worth had you been paid a monetary salary by him for all of the jobs you did. On average, you would have gotten about $115,400 per YEAR! They list the job description for a stay at home mother as:

"The job titles that best matched a mom's definition of her work are (in order of hours spent per week): housekeeper, day care center teacher, cook, computer operator, facilities manager, van driver, psychologist, laundry machine operator, janitor and chief executive officer."

Look up that site sometime if you ever begin to forget the value you gave him all of those years you stayed home. You could show him this and he'd probably just roll his eyes--but never undervalue yourself and all of the work you have done these years. You contributed every bit as much to the marriage and financial status of the family as he did--much more, truth be told. Difference is that you did it for free (and didn't want money for it)--but now you need to stand up and be prepared to assert your rights. I hated paying the lawyer anything too--may as well set money on fire--but the end result will be worth it if it means you are financially more secure than you would have been without some help.

As for the girlfriend, or lack thereof, all I can tell you there is that the puzzle pieces will eventually begin to come together and one day you will know as much of the truth as you can. He's right--the truth will tell--he just thinks he is more clever than the truth. I don't know if he is or isn't having an affair, but either way there is something about him that doesn't sound like he is being honest with you. Try not to drive yourself crazy trying to answer all the questions right now--Patience will be your best friend when you can find it--the truth WILL tell over time.

Don't forget to take care of yourself in all of this. Those babies are lucky to have you as their momma--you'll be okay--but just stay strong through this part of it and you will be thankful later. Look at this way too--if you feel down the road that he is paying too much, you can always cut him a check for the difference--but you know he won't offer to pay more if you settle for less than you all deserve now. Right?

Take care, Ann--be strong!
Nancy

Anonymous said...

Hey all you strong, wonderful, amazing ladies and mamma's!

I have not posted here in a long while, my story is similar but not as heart wrenching as all of yours..... My hopefully-soon-to-be-ex walked out on me a year ago, withdrew his financial income and has caused untold headaches, a permanent restraining order against him and many other idiotic circumstances as well as going back to his ex wife. He is now delaying the divorce by claiming my business and dragging me through the court system to try to get me to be put out of the house and for him to move back into the house as, even though he has not paid a penny for the entire year.

I dont have small kids, but three wonderful confused and heartbroken late twenties adults who are still stunned at what he has done.

I keep up with all you are going through - and when I read this article, I thought of all of you!
This is an incredible article, made me laugh and cry and nod in agreement..... I hope you don't mind me sharing it.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/must-read/end-men

Keep on being strong - you might not even think that you are - but just waking up and swinging your feet onto the floor, is strength. And I get a ton of it just listening to how you are all growing. Thank you!

Sending hugs and hope to you all
Annie

Ann said...

Hi Everyone,

I'm divorced.

Wasn't completely satisfied about how everything happened in court today. The Judge said the kids and I should be able to move out of the house by July 1st. I don't think it's enough time to move out. I don't think my lawyer was aggressive enough.
I got a little alimony for 3 years the amount I asked for. He's not ordered to pay daycare. Just child support and alimony.
That's it.
Sorry this is all about me. I don't mean to sound like this. Just wanted to let you all know what happened today.
I just want to get out of here today and never see him again.

Talk to you soon,
Love Ann

Nancy said...

Oh, Ann, I am so sorry! What an incredibly difficult day you have had. It is so sad that a relationship that started with excitement and love turns into what feels like nothing more than a business agreement to everyone besides you. So hard to understand how things ended up at this point and why J isn't more upset at what he has done. It all seems so cold, doesn't it?

The day I got the phone call from my lawyer's office telling me that the judge had signed the final dissolution papers left me sobbing and more heartbroken than I had been during the majority of the separation, short as it was. It was so hard to accept that this had all happened and that the person I knew I would be with the rest of my life turned into the person who had caused me more pain than anyone else I had ever met. It's just so hard to believe, isn't it?

I'm also sorry that your lawyer didn't seem very aggressive in the negotiations. I don't blame you for just wanting to never see J again--he treated you terribly! Sweet Ann, you take the time you need right now to grieve, but don't expect the grieving to be finished right away. Everyone is different, but there is no time limit where you have to feel "normal" again. Here is the good news in this crazy world you found yourself in, thanks to that asshole--after today, he has no control whatsoever in your life and you can do what you want when you want it however long you want it and you never EVER have to answer to him again. You'll work out things in regard to the children, but today is the day you may want to think of as YOUR independence day. Today is the day your new life begins--and in a way that YOU want it to begin. I honestly think that God knew that J was not the person he should have been with you and God knows that there is a bigger and happier plan forming for you right this second. There is not one woman on this site who will say they were happier with their husband than they are now that the months/years have gone by. J was becoming like a cancer, and today you cut him out--now the healing can begin and you will find out that the real you is still in there waiting to be set free. J is an idiot! He will never find with anybody else what he had with you and the kids--never! You, on the other hand, will find a life out there that may have its challenges now and then but which will feel so much happier and free in the long run. Trust me, Ann--baby steps--you won't always feel this way. We will walk with you as your friends and sisters as long as you want us.

I am sorry--today is hard. Today is sad. Today is never going to be forgotten. BUT tomorrow let the hope creep back in just a little and it will grow on its own and before you know it, you will have rediscovered the you that you thought was lost.

All our love is with you, Ann. We know how you feel tonight and we cry with you--life DOES and WILL get better, I promise!

Nancy

colleen said...

Oh Ann, I'm sorry.

I cried my eyes out the day I got divorced - 28 Jan 2011 - 22 years and 3 months to the day (we married 28 Oct) - how surreal! It is like you have been punched in the gut.

It is not a happy day. It is the end of a chapter in your life.

As Nancy says so well, this is the beginning of your new life and you will find happiness again, I promise you that.

I watched a movie last night with Jessica Lange and her two boys who were suddenly left to cope with life after her husband died. I was heartbroken at her struggles to maintain her family - then a light went off in my head - that was ME! Way back when ... the fear, the struggles, my precious boys ...

You will find your light again my sweet friend.

sending you much love
Colleen

colleen said...

Hey Annie

Sorry to hear you are still going through such turmoil, but somehow we get through this - don't we?

Funny how the men in our lives did the damage, then turned it back on us as though we were the guilty party ... cold and heartless - who are these men???

I did check the site out and enjoyed it, loved his style of writing - thank you!

I am proud that our chats on here are shared by so many and hopefully we can help others grow as we have.

sending hugs back
Colleen

Anonymous said...

Oh my gosh, this is my life right now. I feel like you wrote this for me, which just goes to show that everything I am going through is what anyone would go through and I am not pathetic or crazy. Thank you for writing this. AAggggghhhhh sore heart...cannot wait for this pain to heal and I can remember the strong, whole person that I am at my core.

Anonymous said...

Colleen I have just finished reading all of the above posts and I have to say that you are amazing. Im 7 weeks separated with 2 little girls aged 4 & 5 and it's hard. But I am so grateful for all of the above it makes you feel that you are not alone & everything will be alright. we as women are strong even in our despair we keep going with our kids and lives. They had it soooo good and still couldn't handle it - selfish cowards. The thing is... They can have their freedom, Their mistress, and the money.... But they won't ever have us again. There is such a small percentage of decent people out there and I hope they all come across the vast majority of the indecent and they cause them the grief and despair they caused us - and they will. God is watching and he never leaves us. So thank you to you all for sharing your pain. God bless you all. With love & big hugs..xxoo

Anonymous said...

i feel for each and every person on here, and i am so glad i found your stories. I have known many people that have been divorced left or what ever you call it, but I always told myself that will never happen to me, no matter how long we are together and how mad he makes me each day. He told me that I changed just a couple of days ago, then a couple of hours later my 17 year old daughter decided to take and leave me at the same time. That one completely blind sided me. It still sounds bad to me or at least in my head, that it hurts that he left, but i have been kind of expecting it for years, but the fact that my daughter left me at the same time just about did me in. If it were not for my very loving son all of 14 years old to come and hold my hand and let me cry on his shoulder i really don't know where i would be today. I felt as if my heart was ripped out of my chest that day. I did everything that you said in the first couple of days, i cried, did not eat, texting him begging for information, talked to his mom, since she is the primary person for him to talk to, cried a lot more, cried to my mom, got angry did not sleep for 2 days, took a day from work to cry. Spent hours searching the internet for answers. Went to a therapist the next day in tears, still not sure what that was supposed to accomplish, i felt a little better getting everything off my chest, but it was not the person that i needed to hear all this stuff. So i guess it helped me to calm down, and he (the therapist) told me that it is not all my fault from all the facts that he had. I think a woman would have been better, i could have really used a hug at that point. I have asked, my soon to be ex to get therapy- that was a flat no, since it is all my fault. I tried to get my daughter to get help, and she says a flat no also. I guess they are two in the same.

Now that it has been a couple of days, i actually feel like cleaning my house, and that is a good thing (have not felt like cleaning for a really long time as not to disturb anyone, i know it sounds silly) I feel like smiling again, i feel like laughing at the dumbest things. I still feel lonely, i wish my son would come and hang out with me, but he is a teen with a girl friend.

I am thinking that this could be a silver lining for him, since he is old enough to understand what is going on, he will at least know how bad someone else can hurt on the other side if something goes bad. I try to talk to him about that and i get i know, i know, i know. He says that but i really think that he is listening and learning. But he needs time to absorb it all himself. I must be doing something right, he wanted to stay with me when his dad left, and wanted to stay with me when his dad offered to take him overnight. In my book i call that a win- not a fair win, but a win. Someone still loves me and does not blame me. Well as far as i can tell, he is still a boy.

Thank you for posting all of your stories, it does not matter if you have been married for a short time or a long time. Mine was 17years and 8 months.

Good luck to you all, and I will continue to read your stories myself. Thank you for sharing with all of us that are hurting.

cindi said...

oops a double post, did not sign my name the first time.

i feel for each and every person on here, and i am so glad i found your stories. I have known many people that have been divorced left or what ever you call it, but I always told myself that will never happen to me, no matter how long we are together and how mad he makes me each day. He told me that I changed just a couple of days ago, then a couple of hours later my 17 year old daughter decided to take and leave me at the same time. That one completely blind sided me. It still sounds bad to me or at least in my head, that it hurts that he left, but i have been kind of expecting it for years, but the fact that my daughter left me at the same time just about did me in. If it were not for my very loving son all of 14 years old to come and hold my hand and let me cry on his shoulder i really don't know where i would be today. I felt as if my heart was ripped out of my chest that day. I did everything that you said in the first couple of days, i cried, did not eat, texting him begging for information, talked to his mom, since she is the primary person for him to talk to, cried a lot more, cried to my mom, got angry did not sleep for 2 days, took a day from work to cry. Spent hours searching the internet for answers. Went to a therapist the next day in tears, still not sure what that was supposed to accomplish, i felt a little better getting everything off my chest, but it was not the person that i needed to hear all this stuff. So i guess it helped me to calm down, and he (the therapist) told me that it is not all my fault from all the facts that he had. I think a woman would have been better, i could have really used a hug at that point. I have asked, my soon to be ex to get therapy- that was a flat no, since it is all my fault. I tried to get my daughter to get help, and she says a flat no also. I guess they are two in the same.

Now that it has been a couple of days, i actually feel like cleaning my house, and that is a good thing (have not felt like cleaning for a really long time as not to disturb anyone, i know it sounds silly) I feel like smiling again, i feel like laughing at the dumbest things. I still feel lonely, i wish my son would come and hang out with me, but he is a teen with a girl friend.

I am thinking that this could be a silver lining for him, since he is old enough to understand what is going on, he will at least know how bad someone else can hurt on the other side if something goes bad. I try to talk to him about that and i get i know, i know, i know. He says that but i really think that he is listening and learning. But he needs time to absorb it all himself. I must be doing something right, he wanted to stay with me when his dad left, and wanted to stay with me when his dad offered to take him overnight. In my book i call that a win- not a fair win, but a win. Someone still loves me and does not blame me. Well as far as i can tell, he is still a boy.

Thank you for posting all of your stories, it does not matter if you have been married for a short time or a long time. Mine was 17years and 8 months.

Good luck to you all, and I will continue to read your stories myself. Thank you for sharing with all of us that are hurting.

Nancy said...

Good evening, ladies. I want to extend a welcome and a warm hug to all of our new friends who have come the last couple of weeks. I am so sorry that your lives have been turned upside down, but I hope you will feel free to share, vent, cry, question, laugh--anything that you like. If you've read many of the posts (and there are a LOT), you know that we have all experienced highs and lows on this awful journey. Ann, Cindi, Anonymous--I'm sorry for leaving anyone else out by name (my mind is a sieve anymore--I can't even remember why I go from one room into another more than I should admit)--all of you lovely ladies have found a place you are safe to talk to us. There will always be somebody who is reading your words and thinking about you. In my opinion, it helped me to talk to people who were experiencing the same emotions I was. Unfortunately for all of us, we can totally relate to what has happened to you in one form or another.

The children are always a huge concern, and this makes dealing with the shock and emotional feelings of betrayal so much more difficult (not that it wouldn't be hard without children--it's hard no matter what). Little ones tug at your heart because you wonder how you will ever be able to raise them the way you wanted them to be raised--two parents helping each other--and you get mad because when your husband walked out, he made them part of a statistic of children from broken up homes. That bothered me worse than anything else--at least at first. The older children know more than you think they do, but then you worry about how they will handle seeing their father in a different light--will it affect their own relationships? Colleen knows all too well the signs to look for in teenage sons.

Cindi, maybe you could give us a little more background if you feel like it. It's surprising that your daughter would leave the same day as your husband--did she go with him or did she leave on her own? I'm curious to know more of your story should you like to share.

I know words don't always help right now, but I promise you that you WILL get through this. Take care of yourselves and don't try to rush through the pain to get to the other side too quickly. You want to feel normal again--whatever version of normal you had--but the pain will ease and if you let it go through you and deal with it, one step at a time, you will come out the other side much stronger than you ever thought you could be. Baby steps, girls! We're all still walking along the same path--keep putting one foot in front of the other and watch the footprints of those of us a little further down that path--the steps continue and you will not find one of us sitting down and giving up (we rest along the path now and then, but we never totally give up!) Do you know what else? The more steps you take, the smoother that path becomes as you continue your journey--but boy is it rocky at the beginning, huh?

Thoughts of strength and love for all of you!

Nancy

colleen said...

Hi Girls
Welcome new girls Anonymous and Cindi, we'll always be here for you - girls unite!

Anonymous, thank you for your kind words, but reality is I'm just a mom like you are - a lioness with her cubs - yeah, granted my cubs are 6ft tall now, but still my cubs. There are many times when I wish I could devour my eldest, but we've all been there ...

Fact is, the damage caused by their fathers is enormous. My boys are still going through this. My eldest (now almost 20) is battling emotionally and this is filtering through to his workplace and no-one will understand unless they have walked your path. We also need to remember that these men are all our children have known their entire lives.

As we all predicted, my ex and his lover which he moved into my home town have split up (after 3 months) - no surprises there - it's not such fun when the relationship is in the normal hum-drum of life, or when his kids refuse to meet you, or when he golfs all weekend - Hmmm? I wonder here - was far more fun when you were cheating behind the wife's back for 2 years and I was the bitch in all this and he was the poor unloved husband???? Ha Ha Ha!!!

So, girls, I am off in a few days for a 10 day holiday in my luxurious caravan on the beach with my boyfriend and boys ... isn't life sweet?

Anonymous, just be there for your girls as I know you will, in the long run, you have the girls - he will have nothing.

Cindi, am so sorry for your pain. Teenagers are selfish. They act before they think. Life is all about them. It is heartbreaking as a parent to go through what you are dealing with.

I also have two very different personalities in my boys, the eldest more for himself (dare I say selfish) and my 16yr old more caring. To give you a brief idea: They came back from an expensive, luxurious, island vacation with their father in January and my eldest had a hissy fit that I had restored and moved around furniture in his brothers room and not his (his room was fine) then declared that his room was filthy and I had not vacuumed it! Well ... I had worked so hard while they were away polishing our home and to have that thrown in my face threw me off the edge - I cried for days.

Now I have managed to employ a maid one day a week to help me as I work full time, in addition to being the maintenance man, so now I don't even enter his room - tough love. I don't sleep there so why should I clean?

take care you lovely ladies
big hugs
Colleen

colleen said...

One more thing I would like to add is that right now you are feeling abandoned, unwanted and cast away on the rubbish heap like a piece of garbage. I want you all to remember that one man's garbage is another man's treasure. And you are Treasure!

In time you will all move on and find peace and happiness. Each and every one of us on this site have moved on.

I never ever believed I would find happiness again, but, you have to heal yourself first, and that only comes with time. I will be 50 this year, my boyfriend 35, we have been together for a year now - this works for me and who knows where this will go - life is too short - and - "It's all about ME" ...

take care girlfriends
much love
Colleen

Anonymous said...

Hello Ladies! I haven't been on this site for a while. It's Poppy here:)

Ann - so sorry to hear about the divorce. It is a hard day for sure.

Regarding the money, the judge can only legally give you a certain percentage of his income. I wouldn't feel like the judgement was against you in any way. I think judges know that it is the woman who will take the responsibility for the children in most cases. I hope he is buying you out of the house. If he gets the house, you should get half the equity.

I know it sounds crazy, but you will find your new self. She is in there. She is stronger than you know.

As for me...I am doing fine. My son just got the flu and it is the first time one of my kids has been sick since I have been on my own with them. I really felt alone. It is alot to manage. I ended up having to leave him at home while I took the other one to school, etc. (he is 8 1/2). But, I made it through...as you all do:)

I am dating. I think I told you ladies that I bought a wig. I have naturally blonde hair, but got this really short, layered cut that wasn't working. So, I bought this long blonde wig and the boys are totally dazzled by it. I look 10 years younger. (I am 39). I haven't met the 'one' yet, but I joke with my friends that my $300 wig has paid for itself 10 times over just in dinner dates with guys!

My kids and I have really settled into our life as a family of 3. My daughter has a girl scout father/daughter dance tonight and my brother is taking her. She seems totally fine with that.

Stay strong, ladies!

Poppy

Felicity said...

Hi. :) I found your fantastic post through Google, and this is the first time in the past month that I realise that Im not alone. You encapsulated everything Im feeling right now, and tears are flowing. I am scared, sad and angry now, but I have to know.. have you and your children survived well, are you happy? Did you get everything organised and the bills worked out.
I feel like I am drowning, but I have 3 little children...

My thoughts are with you,
Felicity.

Ann said...

Hello dear friends,
I want to start off saying I feel like Ive been very selfish lately for not responding here in a while.
After the divorce was final, I think I went numb for quite some time. Just numb about the the fact that "I am single again" . I've been burying my head in my books and not thinking about anything else.
I would like to say hello to the new friends that I read on here and am so sorry this happened to you. My struggle began last August when he came home from work and said he was leaving me and wanted to move out. He moved out 5 days later. I have 2 boys 4 and 2, and I feel everything you are going through right now! Nancy, Colleen and Poppy have helped me so much through this and kept me afloat. I too, felt like I was drowning. I still have some days where I just want to hide in a closet. But as Nancy said, those days become further and further apart. I guess I want to tell you this because I want you to believe that the pain will get less with time. You will start to have better days and then good days. You will laugh with your kids again and you will recognize that you miss that part of you as a mom. You will also start seeing your husband in a different way. For me, I have lost a lot of respect for him as a person. Now I can see that I don't want someone like him to be my companion. I want someone to love me ALL the time..even when I'm busy with kids or have an illness. When I am sad now it is because I still feel lonely sometimes. And some days I am still just angry with J, my ex. But I also feel stronger. To help me cope, I was also seeing a therapist that helps women in my situation and she was very encouraging. I am moving closer to my family in June and hope that will be a new step in my healing process.
Please believe that you will get through this..even if you have no idea how, or feel like you have no hope, little by little you will see how you are changing to adapt to this terrible situation. I was so scared, so terrified, so fragile and now because of what I've gone through so far, I KNOW I can do it. The kids and I are so close too, we have a different relationship now. I'm looking forward to watching them grow and it being just us three.
If you want to know anything else about what I felt when everything first started, please feel free to ask. If I can help in anyway I would be glad to.
Nancy and Colleen,
everything you said about me getting stronger was true! I'm so thankful I found you to keep me believing that I could do this on my own. Now that everything is done, sometimes I just still have a hard time letting go of the anger. I think maybe because I still feel betrayed or just mad at him for turning into such a dirtbag! I don't know if this part is ever going to go away. I want to raise my kids with two loving parents but I can't if he is just going to lie or not be there for them. Actually that is my fear, that he is going to make excuses for not seeing them from time to time. Anyway, how have you been doing? How are your kids?
Poppy, I love reading your posts about dating and wigs and such! It sounds like your having fun.

Talk to you soon,
Love Ann

Nancy said...

Good evening, ladies!

I hope you are all doing well. Ann, it sounds like you have a healthy attitude toward this new stage in your life. You have come so far from the first time you introduced yourself, and I bet if you look back at those early posts, you will be amazed at the change in yourself. You and your children are going to be great!

Poppy, you always bring a smile when I read what you have been up to. I'm glad you are happy and enjoying your life now. I hope the kids are doing well.

I'm sorry I haven't written before now, but let me see if I can bring you up to date quickly. I am still having my up and down days--but definitely more ups now. The worst of the recent downs came the day I discovered that my former husband had gotten engaged to the woman he was having an affair with. He didn't tell me--had to find out from my sister who was still friends with him on Facebook. It hurt to think things were so wonderful with them that they were so excited to make it all official. Out with the old, in with the new, I thought. Once the shock wore off, I came to terms with it all pretty quickly.

Now for the biggest up I have had in 2 years--J called me a month ago and told me that they were breaking up--that she had left her diamond and was going to get the rest of her things out of the house by the end of the weekend. His big offense was that he chose to go to a work cookout at lunch instead of going home to her where he was supposed to go on his lunch hour. J then let it slip that all of those times he wouldn't answer my texts or e-mails about our son was because it would cause major fights at home. He said that she reads all of his text messages and e-mails and checks his phone every day. If I send anything at all, it leads to 3 hour fights with her demanding to know why I need to contact him at all. She doesn't trust me--and she especially doesn't trust HIM--to the point where she is checking up on him constantly. He can't call on his cell phone because she will know--he has to use speaker phone at home, etc. Talk about karma, huh?

Their separation lasted only a day--guess one or the other of them caved. He has gone back to not answering anything I send him. Why he is willing to live that way with her, I have no idea. He's turned into such a wimp. I admit it made me feel so much better, though, to know that all was not wonderful. They are still engaged, yes, but to know that his life is so controlled and she doesn't trust him did a world of good for me. Without meaning to he confirmed to me that he did not find what he expected to find in this new relationship--that freedom he wanted is nonexistent. He can't do anything without her questioning it or checking up on him. Guess that's what you get when you get involved with a married man--no trust.

Not sure how this will all work out, but I'm still a little sad we couldn't find some common ground to parent as friends. We were great friends for 13 years and now we are nothing more than acquaintances. I try to keep him informed about what's going on with C, but he obviously wants nothing to do with me--too much to lose with the girlfriend if he acts interested in anything I say, so I really need to stop. I hate seeing him like this in some ways and in other ways, it's the best thing I could see.

Time will tell how this all will work out, but it doesn't sound like a bright future for them. I have my own problems to worry about so can't focus too much on theirs, although it is hard not to want to know what's going on. None of my business, but it is good for me in an odd way to know life sucks for the two of them (at least down deep--on the surface they are still the picture of happiness).

Time to run for now. Hope all of you are well and having your own ups outnumber the downs. Take care and let me know how you are doing when you have time!

Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Nancy,

I realize you are at a better place right now.. but I hate that they got engaged. It almost sounds like it was forced. I hate this woman! I just hate her! Of course their relationship is like that! How else could it be??? Sunshine and lollipops!??! Ughh..I'm glad they split up even if it was brief. It's going to get worse. Even if they get married. Eventually all that builds up..unless they decide they have to go to counseling. Which obviously they are both sick anyway! So it's okay that SHE stole someone's husband and daddy...but not okay that whom she stole from wants contact for the sake of thier precious child together? Wow, that's crazy..Really crazy that THAT bothers her..NOT what SHE did! Honestly...you know what I've learned.. people are so F'ing Unbelievable!

Please tell me...How does HIS family treat HER? Did they first hate her? Do they still? Did they accept her now?

Talk to you soon
Love Ann

Nancy said...

Ann,

Sometimes I think I am in a better place and then at times like tonight, I realize that I have slipped back down that hill a little and find myself at the bottom looking up.

I just got home from my son's baseball game and I have to admit that I am allowing them to ruin a big part of the fun of those games for me. She came with him again tonight (she can't let him do anything by himself and he seems to want her presence anyway to make himself a little more respectable, I guess--whatever) They spent the entire game sitting outside the fence, shoulder to shoulder. Toward the end of the game, they came up to the dugout and stood there, backs to me but not 5 feet in front of where I was standing, his hand around her waist, her laughing up at him and smoothing his hair, etc. Right in front of me! I didn't say a word to either of them--just stared at them at times and then wouldn't look at them other times. I hoped they were as uncomfortable as they make me at those games. It infuriates me that he brings her to those games, although I logically know he has every right to do so. He has ignored every message I have sent him for the last month, give or take, and then shows up in person acting like the happiest man on earth with her on his arm, giggling and trying to act normal in front of people who knew US as a family. I just stood there and wanted to cry because I was totally alone. I have no family within a 5 hour drive--nobody--and I'm stuck here in this town where we live because I can't take my child away from his father--plus, I need to keep the job I have here since what he gives us doesn't stretch very far.

Right now, Ann, I absolutely hate this man and his --well, use your imagination as to the word I want to use. She absolutely helped him leave his family--broke up my family with his help and you're right when you say it's unbelievable that she would be so upset about my actions since she's the one who inserted herself into my life. It frustrates me that he is so concerned about how she feels when I text him a question that it is easier for him to ignore me than it is to stand up to her and tell her he has to have some contact with me for our child's sake. I hate both of them tonight.

As for his family, I have no idea what they think about her. You see, they have never responded to my birthday cards, anniversary cards, etc. I know at the beginning they were confused why he left--he had told them we just grew apart, I guess--I informed them that he was having an affair and had cheated on me and then moved in with her before we were divorced. I think they are embarrassed by his actions--I know that they loved me--but where do you think he learned his avoidance technique? His whole family is the same way--avoid it, run away from it and it goes away. At one point his stepmother couldn't even remember HER name, said it was awkward when they were together. Since then, I guess they've adapted because they go to cookouts at their house and apparently they are one big happy family. Heaven forbid they contact me and see if I'M okay--I mean, I was only a member of their family for 13 years. I feel as if they betrayed me too, although I can understand that they have to support him since he is their son and they have never had a close relationship anyway so they have to do whatever is needed to hold on to him (I was the one who used to get them together--now he is working overtime to put on the show of being happy and content--he finally found the woman meant for him--I hate him! Did I mention that?)

Thanks for hating both of them with me--it makes me feel better. :) I've decided to go back to counseling this week to try and learn how to get rid of these strong emotions they bring out in me. It's not in my nature to hate anybody but it's also not in my nature to be ignored and disliked when I did nothing wrong. That bothers me a lot!

Take care, Ann--
Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Nancy,
I feel the same way! It's not me to hate or be mean but when someone is ignoring me when i didn't do anything; it makes me feel these awful emotions.. I'm sorry you had to go through that at the baseball game! I would just hate that too! Reading it, I felt like I could feel how uncomfortable that was and how lonely too. I'm sure the people that knew you before are not thinking anything bad about you.. they are probably wondering about the "mistress" ..I think that is what people would think of her.. Maybe not 20 years from now.. but at the moment I wouldn't think anyone would give her much credit for being just a girlfriend.
BUT.. At least you are the HERO. He may have a girl around his arm but You are a single mother who saved her family! You took care of everything when he bailed and your son knows that..Think of when he graduates or gets married..I'm sure he will be thanking YOU and wanting you to be there for everything.. When he grows up there's not going to be any dug-outs for dads to lean on and give a thumbs up.
You know what I would do? I have 2 sons..so I'm thinking this will happen to me when they are older and in sports..Get in that game! Be that mom that is screaming every time her son runs or bats! Be so into baseball that it's obvious you wouldn't even be bothered to look down at them. Do what he should be doing as a father! He may have her, but You have your son and you and your son are a team. And if you already do that, then I'm sorry for telling you this..
That's what I thought would happen about his family..eventually they want to keep him somehow and the only way I'm sure is to pretend he didn't do anything wrong.. I'm thinking the same will happen to my in-laws. I know right now they are trying to support me, but they are also worried on how distant J is being..I keep saying "because he has a mistress and she is running the show!" I don't think his mom wants to believe it but I do..Little things have been leaking out. One time he had a parking ticket at 8am in a nearby city that would only indicate he spent the night somewhere. Another time, someone informed me that at work he would be "missing" from lunch and one guy said "He must be with his girlfriend Jill"
Anytime I text him about an explanation of lies..he ignores me..He still answers me when it's about the kids but we'll see. I noticed things got different when the divorce was final. I bet she told him not to talk to me anymore. He also only comes over on his court days.. no extra time with the kids now that everything is on paper. Yeah, he's sooooo alone that he doesn't want any extra time with the kids..makes a lot of sense!
I hope you find some one more wonderful than you could imagine, Nancy..and then they could not only watch you holding each other but also watch the three of you go home together!
Take care,
Love Ann

Ann said...

My Son, Nathan, woke up this morning and said "Mommy, Sherri gave us ice cream yesterday" I know J gave her that name so it sounded like one of his work friends. Sherri is a Lesbian and looks like a Man, crew cut and all..I asked Nathan if she had long hair like mommy's or short hair like daddy's.. He said long hair and it is light yellow... He then told me they went to the lake together..
I don't know what to do!??! I want to scream and drive over there and make a scene! I don't want her touching my babies!
Why isn't there a law against this??? It shouldn't be okay that a mistress spends time with children that are really young. Can I get supervised visits? What can I do??? I don't want my baby Jacob who is 2 to be held by her!!!

Nancy said...

Ann, I'm sorry this is happening to you. Those puzzle pieces are falling into place, aren't they--and it sucks!

A year ago, my son mentioned they had hung out at Dad's friend's mom's house with the family. Say what?! I actually made up an excuse to drive over there and check this woman out. I had a nice conversation with her mom. She said her daughter was not home--apparently she had just been warned by my husband that I was on my way, but I later discovered that she was cowering in the house and would not come out to meet me. How dare this woman who plotted to break up my family have the right to spend ANY time with my sweet boy. It was and continues to be the hardest part of my divorce--her having access to my child. After one weekend with them, my son brought home pictures he had taken on his camera and there was one of the girlfriend lying in bed with the covers up to her chin making a face at him. I felt sick to my stomach, and even more so when my son told me they would all 3 lay in bed and watch TV sometimes. I had a fit and wrote my husband a scathing note--and got no reply, of course.

So, Ann, I know how you feel other than my child was 9 when he was exposed to this sorry excuse for a relationship and not so little like your boys. It's the hardest thing in the world. I don't think there is much you can do about it, however, if they are in no danger. One thing I did insist on--I wanted to meet the woman who was going to be spending time with MY child. I was suprised he agreed--guess he thought it was the honorable thing to do--what an ass! That helped me a little because I realized she was nothing. I told her that my son would only have one mother and it wouldn't be her--and she told me I didn't need to worry. I don't like her, I don't respect her, I resent the time she gets with my child, but there's not a darn thing I can do about it. I do know his father would pick our child over this woman any day of the week--and that helps, but it's still hard.

When it comes down to it, you two are divorced now and he unfortunately has the right to bring other people into your children's lives as long as they are not dangerous to them. It's not fair, it hurts, and it's something that hopefully he would discuss with you first. He has no conscience, though, and it's not surprising he would just drop a new relationship in their lives. She will be on her best behavior because the children are important to him so she wants to be seen in the best light by him. Your kids will be okay, but I know it's hard on you. I don't know that calling him would help because you will go into mother bear mode and he will resent you implying that he's not doing right by his children. Deep breath and know that those children will NEVER see anybody except you as their mother. They will always know you are their home. Children are very intuitive and they know who is sincere and who is not. They won't love anybody more than they love you--nobody will ever replace you in their eyes. I promise you it's true. It's hard to share your children especially with people like those 2 whose morals are questionable. Continue to be the wonderful mother you are to them, try to open the communication with their father, and know that you are the example for the type of woman your sons will one day marry. Hold your head up, be proud of being a wonderful mother, and believe that they love you more than anyone in this world and that will never change no matter who comes and goes in their lives--father included!

Let the information sink in, Ann--you'll be okay, they will be okay, and this woman will not be in the picture very long, I bet. I wouldn't hesitate to let him know that you know what's going on and see if he squirms a little. Let me know what's going on since Nathan mentioned "Sherri."

Love,
Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Nancy,
Yes it was the worst feeling in the world that morning. I'm sorry if I sounded a bit hysterical.. I really was on the verge of going over to where he lives and smashing her face.
I told my son that her name is not "sherri" and he should ask her next time if he sees her what her real name is.
You are right, she has no right to spend time with my kids after breaking up our family. What the hell kind of woman gets with a guy who has a toddler and a newborn! Actually I'm even wondering if this affair started when I was 7 months pregnant!
At one point, when he came over I demanded to know the truth and I lost it. I ran after him screaming calling him a dirtbag..then screamed at the top of my lungs so nieghbors could hear "J CHEATED ON HIS WIFE WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT!!!!" He got all uncomfortable and told me to knock it off and that I was "out of control" HA!
After a couple of weeks I had calmed enough to be cordial to a point.. but then...just last Sunday..he dropped the kids off and Nathan said again "Daddy's friend got out of her car and got into daddy's car and we went to the movies." Instantly, I was enraged and called him until he answered. I said "I know it's not Sherri and it's Jill from work!" He said "It's not the Sherri I know, it's another Sherri and I'm not going into it".. I called him a liar and said I don't want her with my kids and called her all kinds of names. ( I have soooo many! that I've been using this whole time )..I've been sending texts all week on what I think he did in the past and what I think of him and her. He never responds..

Ann said...

Had to continue in a new post....


He's been on a work trip this whole week and missed Nathan's preschool graduation today. I was the only single mom there. It made me very upset at first..seeing these husbands and wives sitting together holding thier other toddler/baby and chatting..I was thinking how they were probably taking thier kids out to eat as a family after. But I held my head up. When the kids came out for thier ceremony I stood up and I got right in front with a video camera in one hand while holding Jacob in my other arm.. And after every little song I gave a big "Whoo Hoo!" and "Great Job Buddy!" I made sure Nathan had eye contact with me and knew that no matter what I was there and I know he could do it. Some of the parents knew my situation and wished me luck at the end.. That was nice that they cared so much. One grandmother had the same thing happen to her daughter and really sympathized with me about J.
My car broke down last week and I needed a rental..so this week I brought the car back and put the bill on the account with me and J still on it..Wouldn't you know after the preschool graduation, all the emotions Nathan and I went through that morning, I got into my car and J was texting me demanding to know why HE has to pay for the rental! Going on and on how he's not responsible for my car and that's not the agreement. I texted back that I still live in the house and he's responsible for the bills and that I need a car to drive the kids which is his responsibility..No repsonse from him..nothing else..See what I mean? The only time he shows any emotion is when it's about money!
Yet, I cant even imgaine how much money he stole from me and the kids taking out his mistress! Buying HER dinner while I was at home taking care of his babies! Going on his little weekend trips to Vermont, I'm sure she was going too! I threw all that in his face on text.. he never responds because he wont admit it..
But what you said is a good idea. I should tell him I would like to meet her if she's going to continue being around the kids. However, I'm afraid how I'll handle it right now.
It's not even about J, it's about the kids. The fact that they don't realize this crazy person that acts all sweet and innocent STOLE thier daddy! And I know J is the First one to blame, but she is too! And I'm furious that he hides her and protects HER!

Plus, all the hurt I already went through and then he does this?? We're not even moved out of the house yet and he can't spend time with his kids alone now???

Now this weekend is Father's Day, I'm really dreading what Nathan is going to tell me...

This was all about me.. sorry..please let me know what is also going on with you lately..

Thanks for all the comfort Nancy,

Nancy said...
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Ann said...

Hi Nancy,
I got your message and sent you an email...I re-read my post, obviously these are all things I think about in my mind when I'm very upset, but of course my kids are the number one priority and I think of them first every minute of the day.... realistically...
I never say one bad thing about J in front of the kids.. that is why I text him when I'm so upset at his actions. I know they love him very much and I would never try to hurt my kids any more than his actions have already hurt them. As for her..well I don't think I have anything in common with her at all..there's no way I even could look at her if I saw her in person..I have no respect for her or him and what they have done. It would be nice if he just told me in the first place that this is what he did.. to man up and just give me at least the respect of being the mother of his kids to say "Okay, I had an affair, I shouldn't have and it was wrong and it is this person" But he continues to lie about everything he has done..at least I could have processed this part several months ago if he just told me.. But this whole time, he's been saying "there is no one else, I swear" over and over.. and I think wanting to believe that he would never do something so dirty, I believed him.
I just want to get out of this house and move on with my life and hopefully never be bothered by him again, except when he picks up the kids.

Ann

Nancy said...

I got your message, Ann, and I replied from my real e-mail address. Thank you for trusting me.

I hope all the ladies here are having a good start to your week. I will check in later, but my thoughts are with all of you!

Nancy

Ann said...

Hi Nancy,

Since I moved I can't find your contact on my yahoo email... can you send me a message so I can reply back? crisglp@yahoo.com
It's been really tough adjusting..I haven't found a job yet and now summer is almost over..
As for J... everything I thought from the begining was true. He is with the co-worker I accused him of being with. I've been taking it pretty hard because I keep thinking back to all those times he lied. I think she is going to move into my old house with him.. form what my son says it seems she keeps her pets there or something. J has blocked me from his phone. I never hated someone so much in my life. Anyway.. hope to talk to you soon. Hope everyone is doing okay here. I'm sorry I haven't been around. So sorry.
Love Ann,

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The father of my kida was caught cheating. He left me with two kids because he says I'll never get over it. Ya darn skippy. Reading ur article gives me hope.

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I know this written over 3 years ago but Thank you!

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Hi to you.

It's Kaz I have not posted on here for quite a while but drop in from time to time.

Sorry that you are in position to have found this site but take comfort from what you read. Every emotion you feel is normal and the road ahead is long, bumpy with many potholes. Really take care of yourself. (do you have children?)try and eat little and often and take one day at a time, it really is baby steps.

Keep posting on here, rant rave and just generally unload it does you the world of good.

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Thanks for posting this. Same story here but mine takes no responsibility for his actions and blames all of our problems on me when I caught him sexting a much older married women he works with. It's comforting to know that I'm not the only one going through this.

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Hi Colleen...I have been reading your blog for 2 weeks now...would love to know where are you at now? how is life with you? your kids? your ex? let me know plz....

Hana

colleen said...

Hi there Hana

Welcome to our safe place. Gosh - 2 weeks of reading - guess I tend to gabber a lot ... hahahaa!

Ok, its about a year since I've posted and finally my sons are in a good place. My eldest is now 21 and my youngest 17 years. It has taken almost 4 years to get to this happy place. They see their father rarely, although they love him, their choice is to be with me. When they feel their father has been unkind to me, they tackle him head on and speak their minds. The three of us have a loving happy home and do not miss my ex ONE BIT!

My ex's relationship did not work out and he blames me and the boys for not accepting her (who cares?) She did relocate herself and her children to my home town and now lives in the same estate that my ex lives in and they are supposedly good friends (again - who cares?) He now has a new girlfriend on the scene - who knows how long this one will last ...

I still have financial issues with him as he has gone back on his word and trying to screw me out of my settlement. I have been legally divorced for just over a year now. I support our sons 100% - all he does is the schooling for the younger son. I have never asked him for a single cent. Yes, it is very very hard to comprehend that this was the man I was with for 25 years. I still don't understand why he left, but I've reached the place where I don't care what he does any longer. Although, it does hurt when I see he has purchased a new Landrover Discovery 4x4 (but pleads poverty), while I budget my gas bill every month in an 11 year old car.

I am still with my boyfriend. I have many ups and downs emotionally and feel I have definitely been "damaged" by my experience, meaning I want a relationship, then I don't. So we balance our friendship by keeping contact on a daily basis but giving each other space. Who knows where it will go? I can't ever see myself getting married again as I will never allow a man to have control of me again. Yes, I have become selfish to a degree whereby I keep mine and my sons needs foremost in all areas.

Recently I spend 3 weeks in the UK on holiday with my son on a hockey tour and it is the first time I have done something for myself. I am finally reaching the place where I can be happy on my own.

sending you love and strength
Colleen
xxx

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I am so glad your replied back to me...I guess I just want to see where will I be in 2-3 years from today...my story is similar to all of you but I was not in love with him anymore...he killed all the love 3 years ago...so I was just staying for the kids and the security of having a family...I am 42 and my kids are 6 and 8 1/2...so when he walked out 4 months ago...it was the biggest chock of my life since I didn't expect that at all...but now that I am out of the chock...I look at it in a positive way...I have the chance to love again and be a woman again...didn't have any intimacy for the last 2 years and a half and that was my decision...so I don't feel I lost an important person in my life...I lost the security of the family...Kids are on my side 100% he was never a good dad to start with...he wasn't a bad dad...he was no dad...he does nothing with the kids at all...now my son hates him...he doesn't want to see him or be with him at all...my daughter is so so...but anyway...he is abandoning the kids also...blaming it on them..stating my kids don't love me and they don't want me...he can not understand that they are hurt...my 8 yrs old understand exactly what happened and he resent his dad for that...I do cry everyday...I have no family here in Canada...but I have a lot of amazing friends that are helping me a lot..at first I was thinking that those men will regret...but it looks that none of them do regret...I did a lot of research about midlife crisis...I understood that those men are self destructive and they will never really be happy...what future do you see for your husband?
Maybe one day I wont care but I know for sure that this man is never going to be happy.

Hana

Colleen said...

Hi Hana

So sorry to hear your story. What an immature a-hole to blame your kids - really!!! If you had no marriage to speak of, then you are young enough at 42 to start off again and be happy. I would definitely suggest counselling for your kids - perhaps the school counsellor?

My sons were totally devastated when their dad left as you will see by my earlier posts, the difference is their dad was their role model and they adored him, he was a good dad and husband which is why this came as such a shock to us all. My sons refused to have anything to do with their dad for around 2 years - they hated him. Their loyalty will always be with me and sad to say their dad is the only loser in this. I have shown my sons strength in character, to rise above devastation and to always be true to yourself - this has shaped and moulded them into the exceptional young men they are today.

What makes me very angry is that he took my security away. I am 51 today (aargh!) and the fact that I stood by his side, built his business, only to be cast aside as he was not "in love" with me. He had no right to destroy our family, he had promised to love and protect us forever. I will never forget the words he said to me but more than that I will never forgive him the pain he caused my sons. I even offered him to stay married and to live his seperate life until the boys had finished school, but he knew better! Selfish selfish selfish!

Future for him? Loneliness!! He will never find the history we had with another - he will go from slapper to slapper but will not find true happiness - so good luck to him! What these men don't realize is that over time a marriage forms a deep bond which they perceive as boredom, so they look for some slapper to boost their ego and thereby they loose the only quality they ever had. Remember - one mans junk is anothers treasure ...

Your friends will get you through this. I have made two amazing friends on this site, also in Canada.

take care
love
Colleen

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This is a devastating experience -- and it feels like abandonment.
I am reading a book called Broken Heart on Hold by Linda Rooks. Just simple meditations (faith-based) by a woman who was separated for 3 years -- it's very comforting. Like they say in Alanon, the only ones we can change is ourselves.

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Dr Lawrence saved my marriage within 3days of contact,i contacted him in regard of my husband who left me for another woman i tried all the methods i know to get him back but to no avail then a good friend of mine Mrs maria introduce me to drlawrencespelltemple@gmail.com who cast a powerful and wonderful spell that brought him back to me in just 3days i really want to use this medium to advice that for solution regarding any relationship issues contact the temple and all your worry s will be gone: drlawrencespelltemple@hotmail.com

xiun said...


I want to use this testimonial post to say a very big thanks to the one i think is the real master of spell Therapist Oniha of the WIN EX BACK SPELL,what seems so difficult for others became so simple for him after i had spent huge amount of money to UNTRUTHFUL spell casters i meet before i eventually meet Therapist Oniha through the help of an old friend who he had worked for,my friend told me about his own case,he told me how he brought back his woman within 2days,i was so surprised with what he said so contacted him quickly and told him about my own case,when i contacted Therapist Oniha he said he will do it and he did it which i do not know how he do it for me,my man who had previously denied my pregnancy and put me to shame came back begin for my forgiveness and said he wanted me back in his life,which made me happy i my heart because i was already a laughing stock in my neighboring hood because he denied impregnating me publicly,i am a happy woman again because of Therapist Oniha contact Therapist Oniha of the winexbackspell@gmail.com and help me say a very BIG thanks to him.

Anonymous said...

You are the very best at what you do. This site has made my deepest desire so simple! This has everything I could possibly need. Ekaka thanks for all your love and help. Your love spell brought my love back to me, after 3 years from the moment we broke up. And this evil woman finally disappeared. You chose me even if you can only take two clients a week and I am glad I chose you ekakaspelltemple@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

Hello, my name is Mrs Micheal, am from united states of America i want to use this opportunity to share my testimony, i was marred with a man called Johnson, we have been living happily for the past 8 years no problem, one day when he go out with a friend he came back late tothe house very drunk, then i was very sad causei have not see him in such manner before, then the next day morning he said he is going to the office, then after some hour later my friend called me i respond to the called she shouted at me that what am i doing at home when my husband is in the hotel room with another woman, i was so shock to here that i trust my husband with all my heart i did not know that he can do a thing like that, later the day when he came back he just change automatically i greeted him he did not respond to my greetings i was lost of hope, after two day later when he came back from work he drove me out of the house with a machete, then i parked out of the house i really, i love my husband with all my life soul and heart, i could not resist it then i went to my friend house to help me beg my husband to allowed me come back but still yet no way, after 5 months i was still thinking of him cause i could not forget him thought on my mind, then i look for a spell caster to help me bring him back but know one want to help me but just to eat up my money, until my friend introduce me to once prophet omagala a great spell caster from the accent Paris of Africa, who help me to bring my husband back, when i first met him he told me that my husband will come back to me but i did not believe cause i have tried so many spell caster but know way, he said that he is a different man that he can help me i said okay let me give him a try really after i have done with what he ask me to do my so lovely husband came to my house with his friend begging me for forgiveness i have no choice than to forgive him, ever since then we have be together with love, happiness, trust and so much more, please you need to contact this man cause he is a real spell caster he is great,please contact him with is email address omagalatemple@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

Wish id found this site 2 years ago i walked in n found my husband of 17 years sat at the computer trousers down his ankles doin well u no wat he was doin . U may say ok but this is a man who said he hated computers didn't now how to use 1. He ran out the house sayin hed Neva dun it before. I brought myself to check his history biggest mistake of my life 2\3 times a day everyday for about 2 years everytime he was alone in the house eg school runs it broke my heart. IM told in good looking i always make an effort and i was available to him most nites id try new things wear nice underware. IM a great mother home keeper n wife i work hard to provide for my family. In the 2 years since i found out his secret he has got a flat that he has kitted out beta than the home wer his family lives we tried n tried to get things back together but i cant seem to forget n he cant get hard wen he does he lasts a second which seams to make me feel worse i Av ad 2 years or shit i Av hated myself and my body i obviously wasn't good enuff for him iv lost all self esteem n trust . Iv read this coloum n already in feeling beta i hope to wake tomoro a new person i am guna b in control i am guna look at this page everytime im down which is very often lately im goin to get him outa my life for good this time . Wish me luck i need it
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Anonymous said...

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Mark said...


I want to say thanks to this great man called Dr Idibia who helped me in my marriage life. my name is maria Hasbarger lives in USA memphise so i was married to Albert we both love and like each other before our marriage, he care about my well being so i was so happy that i have found a man like this in my life my parents love him so much because of his kindness towards me and the way he care about me after four years in my marriage, no child he was not showing me much care anymore but i notice something is going on which i no. then i keep on with the relationship and i was hoping one day God will open my way to have a child in my home then i keep on going to church from one play to another by telling all the pastors about my problems that i don't have a child so many of them promise me that soon i we have a child in my home i keep on hoping in God's miracle on till one day when i went for a visit in my friend office then i was welcome by my friend we started dis causing about so many things on marriage life i was so shock she ask me about my wedding and what is going on till now i still don't have a child then i told her my dear sister i don't no what to do anymore and am scared of loosing my husband who have be caring for me for a long time now then she said i we not loosing him i ask how? then she said there is one man called Dr Idibia who help in a relationship then i keep on asking how about him she told me this man can do all thing and make things possible i never believe her for once that this man she is talking about can do it so fast. also i ask her how do i get his contact she said i should not worry my self then she gave me his contact email ID and his number to contact him i said ok i will try my best to do so she wish me the best of luck in life then i went home gotten home, found that my door is open i was scared thinking so many things i don't no who is in my house now i look at the key in my hand i was thinking i did not lock my door shortly a word came into my mind that i should go inside and check if there is any body at home or my husband getting inside, i found that my husband move away his things in the house then i started calling his number refuses to pick i was like a mad Dog i cried and cried don't no what to do then i remember to that a friend of mine gave me a contact today i take my computer i emailed this man called Dr Idibia also i called him on his cell phone which i received from my friend he spoke to me very well and i was happy my husband we come back to me so after the work was well done by Dr Idibia, just in three days i heard my phone ringing not knowing it was my husband telling me his sorry about what he did to me then i accepted him again a month later, i was pregnant for him so i rest my testimony till i deliver safely i we give the best testimony again so my sisters and brothers if you are in such pain kindly contact this great man with this email {greatidibiaspelltemple30@gmail}.com or call +2348103508204

Anonymous said...

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The situation, the more I tried, the harder it becomes. At times we
Will fight and go apart for some months and we will come back again just because of our kids and his financial assistance and treatment to my sick mother. One day a friend told me about this spell Caster who helped her too, his name is Dr oshogum, she said he uses power to solve spiritual problems and she send me his contact oshogumspelltemple@live.com. I decided to give it a try, I contacted him and he told me it will take just 2 to 3 days and
I will see great changes in my husband. He actually cast a spell,
believe me after 2 to 3 days of the spell, my husband was confessing different names of woman he has slept with. He begged for forgiveness and never to try it again. From that day till now, my mind is at rest. My husband dislike every other women on earth except me. Immediately i told Dr oshogum about my sick mother and he demanded for items again and after same three days of casting the spell, my mother gain back her strengthAnd she is totally healed. And am so happy to have him for myself alone.
He can also help you in your worries and pain contact him now with oshogumspelltemple@live.com or calls him now +2348189357261
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Unknown said...

My name is cheney from uk. I never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once when i went to Africa in February this year on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is DR.EGOGO he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 3years. I really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided, skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i returned to Canada, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is egogotemple@yahoo.com

Oshema said...


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Miss Joyce said...

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Miss Joyce said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Thanks to this great man of spirit called Dr Samura which I don't know how to thank him for the good work he has Don for me and family which I want to share my testimony with to you all so I was married to Hassan Moel and my name is Julie deshields for six years now he left me with two kids with know reason which I don't know what to do.so one day i was in my friends place when I exposed my pain to her about my depression which I have be looking for who to help me out of it then my friend called me closer to her self telling me on how she got this great man of spirit who helped her found her way to get her husband back then I ask of his contact she quickly go and get her computer and gave me his Email ID and his number so,that is how I contacted him for a help. And now am so happy with my family and with a happy home if you are in such pain kindly Via Email SAMURATELLERSPELL100@YAHOO.COM or call +2348103508204 have faith in him and he will help you
Julie Deshields.

maria said...

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(9)Herbal care
10)Help bringing people out of prison
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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Monica Smith said...

HELLO,
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Anonymous said...

HOW I GOT BACK MY HUSBAND AFTER 7 MONTHS OF SEPERATION
I am Ruth from USA, I have been married to my husband for 9 years with 2 kids, just of recent my husband started seeing another lady outside our marriage, he started coming home late and each time i confronted him, he treathened to divorce me and he finally moved out of the house to stay with his mistress abandoning me and my kids, I tried all i could to get him back but all was to no avail until i saw a post in a love forum about a spell caster who helps people get back lost love through love spells, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contacted this love spell caster through his email, he helped me cast a re-union spell and my husband called me within 72hours apologising, he is back home again and we are happy together again as one happy family. Contact this Great spell caster for your marriage or relationship problems via his email akodospelltemple@gmail.com Goodluck

Anonymous said...

HOW I GOT BACK MY HUSBAND AFTER 7 MONTHS OF SEPERATION
I am Ruth from USA, I have been married to my husband for 9 years with 2 kids, just of recent my husband started seeing another lady outside our marriage, he started coming home late and each time i confronted him, he treathened to divorce me and he finally moved out of the house to stay with his mistress abandoning me and my kids, I tried all i could to get him back but all was to no avail until i saw a post in a love forum about a spell caster who helps people get back lost love through love spells, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contacted this love spell caster through his email, he helped me cast a re-union spell and my husband called me within 72hours apologising, he is back home again and we are happy together again as one happy family. Contact this Great spell caster for your marriage or relationship problems via his email akodospelltemple@gmail.com Goodluck

Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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Anonymous said...

My name is Mrs. Jason Destiny,From USA ,and I’m
happily married with a lovely husband and two
children.I had a very big problem with my husband
few months ago,to the extent that he even packed his
things away from our house. He left I and and my kids
for almost 5 months,and i tried all my possible best
and effort to bring him back.I discussed it with a very
good friend of mine,and he gave me an advice
concerning a spell caster, that he is the only one that
can handle my situations and problem,that he’s
always ready and able to do anything related to spell
casting and helping of the needy, Pls every every one i
would like you all to contact him with his email
address,which is as
follows.lovethlovespell@yahoo.com I
never believed in spell casting,but My friend
convinced me and i had no choice than to follow my
friend advice,because i never dreamed of loosing my
lovely Husband. And i contacted him with his email
address,and i discussed with him all my problems and
worries and so surprisingly,he told me that I’ll get my
husband back a day after. I didn't believed Him, until
when i got home,the next day,my husband called me
to inform me that he is coming back home…..So
Amazing!! That’s how i got my husband back through spell
casting and our relationship was stronger than ever.
One of the price i was asked to pay was to tell it to the
people around me that problems like this,can always
be solved by Dr Paul. So! my advice to you out
there is to visit this same E-mail address,and tell him
your problems too,if you are in any condition related
to love issue or getting your ex back or and problem
at all, pls Contact him and have a happy life. you can
contact him via email (lovethlovespell@yahoo.com)
or call him +2348101733265

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Martins Lewis said...



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Carol said...



My Name is Carol Benard ..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contact this man called templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com
Execute some business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years...So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution...so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me...The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this...he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him here:templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com
... CONTACT THIS GREAT AND POWERFUL SPELL CASTER CALLED templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com ...HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS :templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com
..CONTACT HIM NOW AND BE FAST ABOUT IT SO HE CAN ALSO ATTEND TO YOU BECAUSE THE EARLIER YOU CONTACT HIM NOW THE BETTER FOR YOU TO GET QUICK SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS.

Carol said...



My Name is Carol Benard ..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contact this man called templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com
Execute some business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years...So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution...so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me...The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this...he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him here:templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com
... CONTACT THIS GREAT AND POWERFUL SPELL CASTER CALLED templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com ...HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS :templeofsuccessandlove1@gmail.com
..CONTACT HIM NOW AND BE FAST ABOUT IT SO HE CAN ALSO ATTEND TO YOU BECAUSE THE EARLIER YOU CONTACT HIM NOW THE BETTER FOR YOU TO GET QUICK SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS.

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